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Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Thorben Thuermer

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:36:34 -0500 Eythan Weg <weg(a)indiscrete.org> wrote: > > How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One > use for it is being able to compare side by side > different parts of the same document. at the point where you find that you also want you text editor side-by-side with dillo to edit your page and consider integrating one with dillo, you should notice that this is probably the wrong level to solve the problem at... such things seem less like a feature to add into a specific application, (ands to be repeated in each new application!) but ask for a more more general system, for example a windowmanager feature. <offtopic><plug> a windowmanager that implements such features is ion: http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/ while it's different managment models probably take time to get used to, it's perfect for such tasks. i made screenshots of a split dillo example: http://users.auriga.wearlab.de/~r00t/sidebyside-1.png http://users.auriga.wearlab.de/~r00t/sidebyside-2.png </plug></offtopic> > Eythan Greetings, Thorben

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Ken Wolcott

Hi Thorben; Thank you for your response. Yes, I didn't make myself very clear unfortunately, and I realized that some time after having sent the email msg. I did a diff of the supplied dillorc and my ~/.dillorc. The only line that differed was the extra line (copied http_proxy) that I had enabled with the correct URL for the proxy. What I provided in the email was the line that diff'd after it had been "sanitized". I had an "Automatic proxy configuration URL" set up for mozilla originally which is different than a "Manual proxy configuration" (http://ip:port) syntax. I decided to change the way the proxy was configured in mozilla to the form needed by dillo. It works fine. Are you saying that dillo under a proxy expects the proxy server to do all dns resolution? If that's the case, then why is galeon, mozilla, konquorer, netscape and opera working correctly under the proxy where dillo does not? I'm using the same proxy for all the web browsers I just mentioned. Thanks, Ken On Wednesday 12 November 2003 13:08, Thorben Thuermer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:53:45 -0600 > > Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > > Hi; > > > > Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am > > under a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a > > commented-out section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be > > my ~/.dillorc and started dillo again. > > you DID uncomment the http_proxy line and edit it to insert YOUR proxy's > address? > > (using a local wwwoffle proxy on my notebook) > $ grep -i proxy .dillo/dillorc > # Set the proxy information for http > http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/ > no_proxy = "wl localhost" > > note that plain dillo does currently NOT support proxy authentication. > > >I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer > > complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any > > URL. The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve > > http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying > > to go to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these > > web sites using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, > > netscape and konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy > > preference. Perhaps my proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is > > the chatter from dillo and the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been > > sanitized). > > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > > > prompt> dillo > > Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< > > Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) > > when using a proxy, dillo would never try to resolve the DNS > of the URL you entered, but only connect to the proxy host: > > $ dillo > Enabling cookies as from cookiesrc... > Connecting to 127.0.0.1 > > Greetings, > Thorben > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Thorben Thuermer

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:53:45 -0600 Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > Hi; > > Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am under > a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a commented-out > section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be my ~/.dillorc and > started dillo again. you DID uncomment the http_proxy line and edit it to insert YOUR proxy's address? (using a local wwwoffle proxy on my notebook) $ grep -i proxy .dillo/dillorc # Set the proxy information for http http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/ no_proxy = "wl localhost" note that plain dillo does currently NOT support proxy authentication. >I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer > complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any URL. > The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve > http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying to go > to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these web sites > using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, netscape and > konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy preference. Perhaps my > proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is the chatter from dillo and > the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been sanitized). > > Thanks, > Ken > prompt> dillo > Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< > Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) when using a proxy, dillo would never try to resolve the DNS of the URL you entered, but only connect to the proxy host: $ dillo Enabling cookies as from cookiesrc... Connecting to 127.0.0.1 Greetings, Thorben

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Eythan Weg

Frank de Lange writes: > Eythan Weg wrote: > >>How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One >>use for it is being able to compare side by side >> different parts of the same document. >> > No, that sounds like something which can easily be achieved using a > frameset. No need for special code in Dillo for that... > > <frameset cols="*,*"> > <frame src="doc1.html"> > <frame src="doc2.html"> > </frameset> > > Make a form which feeds two urls to a frameset page like that. Presto, > two documents side by side. > Yes, but... inconvenient and besides it blends the user with the page designer. Consider, perhaps, an implementation of your suggestion done on the fly. For now I prefer to open a second dillo's window when such a need arises. > Cheers//Frank Sincerely, Eythan

Nov. 12, 2003

dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Ken Wolcott

Hi; Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am under a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a commented-out section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be my ~/.dillorc and started dillo again. I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any URL. The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying to go to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these web sites using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, netscape and konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy preference. Perhaps my proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is the chatter from dillo and the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been sanitized). Thanks, Ken **************snip********************** prompt> cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) prompt> which dillo dillo is /usr/bin/dillo ptompt> dillo --version Dillo 0.7.3 /msa3530> prompt> dillo Setting locale to C... dillo_dns_init: Here we go! Disabling cookies. Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) Dillo: normal exit! /prompt> **************snip********************** **************snip********************** http_proxy=http://my_ip:my_port/ **************snip**********************

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Frank de Lange

Eythan Weg wrote: >How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One >use for it is being able to compare side by side >different parts of the same document. > > No, that sounds like something which can easily be achieved using a frameset. No need for special code in Dillo for that... <frameset cols="*,*"> <frame src="doc1.html"> <frame src="doc2.html"> </frameset> Make a form which feeds two urls to a frameset page like that. Presto, two documents side by side. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Eythan Weg

How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One use for it is being able to compare side by side different parts of the same document. Eythan

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: Keybd 3 patch

by Paul Pelzl

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:00:58AM +0100, Frank de Lange wrote: > >http://notlong.com/links/ (the links in the table appear to be > >problematic) > > > > > I see what you mean, but this is not that easy to fix. Links are sorted > on y.x order using the coordinates for the first word in the link. If > you look at the table, you'll notice that 'makeashorterlink.com' starts > half a line above all the other links in the table row, while 'ek.dk' > starts half a line after the others. This causes those links to appear > in this order: > > makeashorterlink (link DOWN)-> one of the links to the left of it (link > DOWN)-> ek.dk > > I'll see if I can find a simple solution to this problem (use a median > coordinate? use a coordinate range?), but I do not think this will be > fixed in the next patch. I think you misunderstand... I ran into a segfault as soon as I hit one of the links in the table. Are you unable to reproduce? Paul

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Paul Pelzl

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:57:05AM +0100, Frank de Lange wrote: > >>Talking about my patch, what does need improvement? > >>Some ideas: > >>- select contents of location bar/search field when they are focused > >> (DONE, in next version) > >> > > > >Heh, I made that change myself about six months ago. > > > Hm, you should have shared your patch then, ey? I use hooks to > grab-focus (->select all) and focus-out-event (->deselect all). What was > your solution? My solution was less comprehensive. I just added a line in a_Interface_open_dialog, which does everything I want since I have popup_dialogs=NO. > >>- more key bindings (replacing current key handling where applicable) > >>- remove compile options for tabs and frames, make tabs/frames standard? > >> [ PDA/embedded developers: is this OK with you? ] > >>- ??? > >> > > - i-search support within the "View Source" window would be helpful. > > > The whole 'View Source' window needs an overhaul. Best thing to do would > be to implement a (sane, no 'notepad popup spam' like Microsoft products > manage to produce) version of the 'view-source' protocol, so source is > viewed in a normal window/tab/frame/... That way you get all facilities, > for 'free'. Agreed, this is really the way to handle it. Paul

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] HTTPS Patch

by Frank de Lange

Indan Zupancic wrote: >Anyway, the point was, Frank, you got some tips how to handle all those >patches? My current system works fine, but I need yet another directory >with Dillo source if I want to make or use another patch. > > I've made some scripts which create a temporary copy of the dillo CVS dir and the patched dir, remove all unwanted crud from the patched dir, do the diff and generate some statistics. I can send them if you want. Of course this still leaves the issues with patch makers constantly being out of sync with eachother, and each patch being broken by updates to CVS shortly after the patch was posted. More on that later... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

Nov. 12, 2003