Starting new Open-Source Software distro for Windows
Hi all ! I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new. The new project, named Qumble, already has BETA1 and forum ready. link: http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2 Could you help me test it and advertise it (help spread the word) ? --- P.S. http://softwarefreedomday.org/ ---> "Contact US" is broken. I have tried like 10 times, but always failed in the "captcha" visual recognition stage. Please check it out. (or disable this test) Best Wishes, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov", 31.08.2011.
Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Hi all ! I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new. The new project, named Qumble, already has BETA1 and forum ready.
Could you help me test it and advertise it (help spread the word) ?
I've just forwarded the announcement to planning-ru@. (Please also consider replying there.) I guess we may consider distributing the images, as well as the physical media, at the event at Altai State Univeristy. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 Coming soon: Software Freedom Day http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/ planning-ru (ru), sfd-discuss (en)
Hi Ivan, Couple of days back I have initiated such a disk Swatantra. http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Swatantra http://swatantra.sourceforge.net/ Do have a look at its contents and if possible do add some thing on Qumble. Have a Happy Happy Software Freedom Day. ~ Mohan On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@gray.siamics.net> wrote:
Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Hi all ! I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new. The new project, named Qumble, already has BETA1 and forum ready.
Could you help me test it and advertise it (help spread the word) ?
I've just forwarded the announcement to planning-ru@. (Please also consider replying there.)
I guess we may consider distributing the images, as well as the physical media, at the event at Altai State Univeristy.
[…]
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Hello Manmohan, This is nice! However all the links on the page seem not to be active as i tried to download the 4.5Gb compilation using the download tab, but its does not seem to be responding. Could you provide the url where this can be downloaded. Regards On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Manmohan Brahma <manmohan.brahma@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Ivan,
Couple of days back I have initiated such a disk Swatantra.
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Swatantra http://swatantra.sourceforge.net/
Do have a look at its contents and if possible do add some thing on Qumble. Have a Happy Happy Software Freedom Day.
~ Mohan
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@gray.siamics.net>wrote:
> Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Hi all ! I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new. The new project, named Qumble, already has BETA1 and forum ready.
Could you help me test it and advertise it (help spread the word) ?
I've just forwarded the announcement to planning-ru@. (Please also consider replying there.)
I guess we may consider distributing the images, as well as the physical media, at the event at Altai State Univeristy.
[…]
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Ivan Shmakov: My version is just a test release. Please do not distribute it to the wide audience yet, but only to advanced users and developers. It is not ready yet. Having some community BETA testers will help me finish it sooner. (maybe withing few weeks, if you help) Manmohan Brahma: Very nice to see a sister project around. I could not download it -- the download links are broken on your page: http://swatantra.sourceforge.net/# You seem to have lots and lots of software. By contrast, the selection process for Qumble is going to be much more strict and we mostly target Windows Home Users. We will have much fewer software (of hopefully better quality). Due to our aim for Home Users we will overlook such categories as "development", "Database", and "Content Management System". Also we have a restriction of one software per category. It means that we won't include both "Pea-Zip" and "7-zip" for instance. Few questions/notes: Adding some more games to Qumble makes sense. QTfw seems to be FreeBSD only. Where did u get a Windows version ? QuoteCom ip telephony - What is it ? Google unable to find it. HandBrake - seems next to useless for me - doesn't support WebM. The goal is to also support Open Formats, not just Open-Source Software. Virtual Box Open Source Edition - who built it ? BTW: Oracle's VirtualBox is now fully Open-Source since version 4.0 (you can just grab latest 4.1.2 and go) *OSE builds usually do not include documentation and drivers / Guest Additions, making such versions much less useful than Oracle's build. All such components were Open-Sourced with v4.0.0. Also why do you think that VBox takes just 8 MB? Last time I checked it was like 80 MB. Vbox in it's feature list compares closer to VMware Workstation beating freeware easily - both "Microsoft Virtual PC 2007" and "Vmware Player" on features hands-down. WinCDEmu - looks useful. Will consider adding it to Qumble. Why is "Infra Recorder" under "Multimedia" while "WinCDEmu" under "System Utilities" category ? IMO they should belong to one category. OpenJDK for Windows - where can I get it ? What's license? Python - Do you also supply it's libraries such as pyWin and pyQt ? Otherwise it is next to useless. For your distro I can recommend some of our choices: 1. PuTTY - COM/Serial/Telnet/SSH client 2. Celestia - 3D space simulator 3. Really Slick Screensavers 4. Sumatra PDF - We consider including it for future release of Qumble. It is equivalent to Adobe Reader but much more light-weight. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
I see, on your SFD wiki page, that you have a table with a column titled "Proprietary alternative", this doesn't seem entirely helpful, comparing things like bluefish and gimp to dreamweaver and photoshop(which you appear to have used in the design of your website, GIMP no good?) may be a little misleading, and suggesting that the "proprietary alternative" to FreeCiv, a Civilization clone, is age of empires is rather amusing. You appear to be be hoovering up every possible free app, including complicated and potentially dangerous utilities(a windows password cracker, really?), rather than being selective and providing only the best quality tools that the open source world has to offer, try to make sure that the apps you distribute are at the very least well tested, user friendly and genuinely open source. I'm curious about Alice and GCOMPRIS, i believe the latter is crippleware on windows, has this changed or will you be building your own distribution for the platform to get around the limitations? Alice looks interesting but just how free is it, i see EA and their Sims IP are involved, is the content open too or just the engine source? Your project appears to be over a year old, the sourceforge project was started on 2010-08-03, that doesn't sound like a couple of days back. Maybe you should consider creating a swiss army knife system utility boot disc distribution and splitting some of your apps into that, rather than including them with a Windows Free software distro. Phil. On 31 August 2011 07:14, Manmohan Brahma <manmohan.brahma@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ivan,
Couple of days back I have initiated such a disk Swatantra.
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Swatantra http://swatantra.sourceforge.net/
Do have a look at its contents and if possible do add some thing on Qumble. Have a Happy Happy Software Freedom Day.
~ Mohan
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@gray.siamics.net> wrote:
> Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi all ! I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on > TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's > fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new. > The new project, named Qumble, already has BETA1 and forum ready.
> link: http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2
> Could you help me test it and advertise it (help spread the word) ?
I've just forwarded the announcement to planning-ru@. (Please also consider replying there.)
I guess we may consider distributing the images, as well as the physical media, at the event at Altai State Univeristy.
[…]
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Hello Phil ! I'm happy to meet you here. I know you're one of the original OpenCD developers, and if you're looking for a real child project, which follows TheOpenCD's spirit, look and feel, then Qumble is for you. I have copied everything: source code, software selection decision process, website, *everything*. But updated and brang fresh wind quite a lot in many places. Just rebranded as "Qumble", but I have retained original contributors such as you and Henrik. I believe that original TheOpenCD is the best so far, because it targeted quality, rather than quantity and put much more effort into chosen projects. Unfortunately both TheOpenCD, and it's child, TheOpenDisc are dead projects. I have a test version of Qumble available: http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2 Give it a try! Best wishes, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
On 09/01/2011 12:12 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Unfortunately both TheOpenCD, and it's child, TheOpenDisc are dead projects.
Sorry for jumping in so late, I've had family issues and been sick (at the same time). The Opendisc latest release is December 2010, I don't really consider this dead. Have you tried to contact the maintainer? Chris is very responsive and I am sure he will appreciate the help. Besides we just updated all the software (and added a few) in the 11.09 SFD Special edition which is available for download through torrent. Why am I again writing this? Each year I see a very motivated individual wanting to make Yet Another OpenDisc clone. This is followed by one release and then dies. Chris has been maintaining the OpenDisc project for years and makes a few releases a year. I believe it is a lot more beneficial for everyone to provide help to an existing project than create your own and have it die because you realize later that you don't have the time anymore. SFI through its community is probably going to engage in maintaining the Free Culture DVD this winter (lots of fine tuning and format conversion need to happen), we might has well ping Chris too. Thanks. Fred
OpenDisc has no user forum (PHPbb). It is necessary. Without it it is impossible to form a community. Open-Source isn't worth much without community. Qumble has a forum. Besides it has zero materials about the OSS philosophy. Qumble has OSS philosophy materials, inherited from the original TheOpenCD. Besides I dislike it's browser, so Qumble went back to TheOpenCD-style CD browser. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Well, I may be risking to spark a flame war, but I'm deeply concerned with the proliferation of Web-based discussions software, and would like to share my concerns in the hope that it'd allow those intending to deploy a discussion platform to make a more weighted decision regarding the particular technology the platform is to be based upon.
OpenDisc has no user forum (PHPbb). It is necessary. Without it it is impossible to form a community. Open-Source isn't worth much without community. Qumble has a forum.
It's my opinion that Web forums divide more than then unite. In my experience, a typical Web forum has one or more of the following issues: • no support for any “single identity, multiple services” technology, such as OpenID or X.509 certificates whatsoever, thus forcing the user to learn one more (login, password) pair for no good reason; it quickly becomes a problem if the user is interested in discussions in more than a few forums; • over-specialization and lack of cross-posting (or easy multi-posting); there may be a forum for each of, say, Postfix, Exim, Courier, and Sendmail; now, let's imagine that user wants to choose an MTA for his or her own needs, and seeks for opinions regarding all of the four; wouldn't it become necessary to post the message to all these forums? and it isn't nearly as easy with a typical Web forum as it is with a mailing list or a Usenet newsgroup; • maintenance costs; while a Web forum requires considerable maintenance (including paying bills to the hardware and connectivity provider or providers), a Usenet newsgroup has virtually none; • single point of failure; the current network of news servers (which do indeed require maintenance, but that's a bit different) provides redundancy, and Google Groups provide archival; mailing list messages, once they are delivered to one's mailbox, are also independent of the list server, and may be archived by the user for his or her own convenience; • multiple points of access; while a subscription to a mailing list or a newsgroup gives the user a powerful point of access (namely, his or her Mail and News User Agent, possibly combined with an Atom and RSS reader), it's necessary to switch between different Web sites (and thus their respective software) to post to different forums, and if the forum in question lacks an Atom or RSS feed, even to read them! • deprivation of the user's freedom to choose the software to use; while the user may, obviously, choose whatever Web browser to use, a significant portion of a Web forum implementation resides on the Web server, over which the user has no control; if the administrators decide to use phpBB, the user has no way of using the forum without using phpBB; on the contrary, if, say, the preference of the newsgroup's creator (or the mailing list administrator) is Gnus, the user is still free to use SLRN if he or she so decides; • reliance on ECMAScript is not untypical; given that Lynx and similar browsers lack ECMAScript, this may or may not have some accessibility implications; on the contrary, there're many character cell terminal-based (or “text-only”) News and Mail User Agents, which, I believe, are typically compatible with screen reading software. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 Coming soon: Software Freedom Day http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/ planning-ru (ru), sfd-discuss (en)
I found most of this reasons useless. Forums is a well stablish technology as well as proven. Sites like sourceforge use forums as well as many million of users are used to it. Big projects like Audacity, OpenOffice.org and others use forums intensively. Althought I have to agree that it pulverize the communication, many users preffer forums specially for that reason. Forums are also easier to browse and dont force the users to read every single message. Forums are specially important because they provide a better presence on valuable posts. having them move up by popularity or sticky notes. Centralization of information is also imposible, imagine saying to the users, don't blog anymore because it generates conversations under your post which are unreachable from my mailing list and duplicate the communication channels.... I doubt you will get much uptake. Now multiply this on other channels, like youtube, twitter/identica and any other publishing environments. I am sure there are valuable comments on the SFD wall in facebook that this list will never see. That doesnt male the facebook presence a bad thing. The advantages of familiarity well outscore the annoyances. On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@gray.siamics.net> wrote:
Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Well, I may be risking to spark a flame war, but I'm deeply concerned with the proliferation of Web-based discussions software, and would like to share my concerns in the hope that it'd allow those intending to deploy a discussion platform to make a more weighted decision regarding the particular technology the platform is to be based upon.
OpenDisc has no user forum (PHPbb). It is necessary. Without it it is impossible to form a community. Open-Source isn't worth much without community. Qumble has a forum.
It's my opinion that Web forums divide more than then unite.
In my experience, a typical Web forum has one or more of the following issues:
• no support for any “single identity, multiple services” technology, such as OpenID or X.509 certificates whatsoever, thus forcing the user to learn one more (login, password) pair for no good reason; it quickly becomes a problem if the user is interested in discussions in more than a few forums;
• over-specialization and lack of cross-posting (or easy multi-posting); there may be a forum for each of, say, Postfix, Exim, Courier, and Sendmail; now, let's imagine that user wants to choose an MTA for his or her own needs, and seeks for opinions regarding all of the four; wouldn't it become necessary to post the message to all these forums? and it isn't nearly as easy with a typical Web forum as it is with a mailing list or a Usenet newsgroup;
• maintenance costs; while a Web forum requires considerable maintenance (including paying bills to the hardware and connectivity provider or providers), a Usenet newsgroup has virtually none;
• single point of failure; the current network of news servers (which do indeed require maintenance, but that's a bit different) provides redundancy, and Google Groups provide archival; mailing list messages, once they are delivered to one's mailbox, are also independent of the list server, and may be archived by the user for his or her own convenience;
• multiple points of access; while a subscription to a mailing list or a newsgroup gives the user a powerful point of access (namely, his or her Mail and News User Agent, possibly combined with an Atom and RSS reader), it's necessary to switch between different Web sites (and thus their respective software) to post to different forums, and if the forum in question lacks an Atom or RSS feed, even to read them!
• deprivation of the user's freedom to choose the software to use; while the user may, obviously, choose whatever Web browser to use, a significant portion of a Web forum implementation resides on the Web server, over which the user has no control; if the administrators decide to use phpBB, the user has no way of using the forum without using phpBB; on the contrary, if, say, the preference of the newsgroup's creator (or the mailing list administrator) is Gnus, the user is still free to use SLRN if he or she so decides;
• reliance on ECMAScript is not untypical; given that Lynx and similar browsers lack ECMAScript, this may or may not have some accessibility implications; on the contrary, there're many character cell terminal-based (or “text-only”) News and Mail User Agents, which, I believe, are typically compatible with screen reading software.
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Alexandro Colorado <jza@openoffice.org> writes:
I found most of this reasons useless.
… But not invalid?
Forums is a well stablish technology as well as proven. Sites like sourceforge use forums as well as many million of users are used to it. Big projects like Audacity, OpenOffice.org and others use forums intensively.
However, during my participation (however short) in several free software development projects, I've never had to use a Web forum to communicate to the other developers. The development of such a major free software components as, e. g., Ext4, GRASS GIS, SQLite, and the Linux kernel, is centered around the respective mailing lists, not to mention the Debian project, which uses them quite extensively.
Althought I have to agree that it pulverize the communication, many users preffer forums specially for that reason.
I wonder, what's the reason?
Forums are also easier to browse
How is it so?
and dont force the users to read every single message.
Neither mailing lists do. And, of course, it doesn't apply to newsgroups, either. Over the last five years, my Google Mail's INBOX has accumulated, I guess, a few thousands of conversations that I've not only not participated in, but not even read a sufficient fraction of the messages therein.
Forums are specially important because they provide a better presence on valuable posts. having them move up by popularity or sticky notes.
Indeed, it's a valid point. Not that it's impossible to solve this problem for mailing lists or newsgroups, but I know of no well-established solution. (Although I have some ideas on the issue, but won't probably be able to get to working on them anytime soon.)
Centralization of information is also imposible,
Neither it's necessary. And the Internet news technology offers probably the best currently available solution to decentralization.
imagine saying to the users, don't blog anymore because it generates conversations under your post which are unreachable from my mailing list and duplicate the communication channels.... I doubt you will get much uptake. Now multiply this on other channels, like youtube, twitter/identica and any other publishing environments.
Honestly, I don't understand the very purpose of blogging. Moreover, having no easy way to archive the texts I've written on my own media simply makes me nervous.
I am sure there are valuable comments on the SFD wall in facebook that this list will never see. That doesnt male the facebook presence a bad thing. The advantages of familiarity well outscore the annoyances.
Perhaps. -- FSF associate member #7257 Coming soon: Software Freedom Day http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/ planning-ru (ru), sfd-discuss (en)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/2011 05:23 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
Alexandro Colorado <jza@openoffice.org> writes:
I found most of this reasons useless.
… But not invalid?
Forums is a well stablish technology as well as proven. Sites like sourceforge use forums as well as many million of users are used to it. Big projects like Audacity, OpenOffice.org and others use forums intensively.
However, during my participation (however short) in several free software development projects, I've never had to use a Web forum to communicate to the other developers.
Keyword here: *developers*
The development of such a major free software components as, e. g., Ext4, GRASS GIS, SQLite, and the Linux kernel, is centered around the respective mailing lists, not to mention the Debian project, which uses them quite extensively.
Althought I have to agree that it pulverize the communication, many users preffer forums specially for that reason.
Keyword here: *users*
I wonder, what's the reason?
Forums are also easier to browse
How is it so?
One click, zero configuration, and you decide when you get the information (unlike email which is added to your daily data).
and dont force the users to read every single message.
Neither mailing lists do. And, of course, it doesn't apply to newsgroups, either.
The assumption on mailing lists is you do read the messages, as you subscribe to them. On forums the etiquette may vary. [...]
Forums are specially important because they provide a better presence on valuable posts. having them move up by popularity or sticky notes. Indeed, it's a valid point.
Not that it's impossible to solve this problem for mailing lists or newsgroups, but I know of no well-established solution. (Although I have some ideas on the issue, but won't probably be able to get to working on them anytime soon.)
The content is there, we can make it disciverable in may other ways. RSS feeds can be reused/imported or simply mentinoning the most valuable posts every week/month, etc. Most projects folow this either informally (blogging, microblogging, interviews, radio, etc) or more formally (weekly review, reports, magazines). On of the best examnples I can cite of public outreach via a blog combining email subscriptions (which I hadn't used in a long time and did when coming across this one) is Raphael Hertzog's blog: http://raphaelhertzog.com/ - check its structure and timing for posts carefully. Other newer tools and approaches (such as rated Q&A like Shapado, which I metioned recently) establish new channels which can be combined with IRC and microblogging on even sites and communities where developers tend to hangout even less, particularly non-free, SaaS-only, etc. as per our context - such as Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. We have to think way beyond mailing lists and forums to reach as many people as possible.
Centralization of information is also imposible, Neither it's necessary. And the Internet news technology offers probably the best currently available solution to decentralization.
*Federation* on the other hand, is desirable. Perhaps a subject for another thread.
imagine saying to the users, don't blog anymore because it generates conversations under your post which are unreachable from my mailing list and duplicate the communication channels.... I doubt you will get much uptake. Now multiply this on other channels, like youtube, twitter/identica and any other publishing environments.
Honestly, I don't understand the very purpose of blogging. Moreover, having no easy way to archive the texts I've written on my own media simply makes me nervous.
*Channels* is another keyword here. Discoverability is what I aim for when posting to several channels. With platforms like Wordpress it's dead easy to export in XML or database-query formats to save your data, you should check it out. A blog post is also a good way to summarize and gather resources and ideas, opinions, and facts, which can then be re-used easily.
I am sure there are valuable comments on the SFD wall in facebook that this list will never see. That doesnt male the facebook presence a bad thing. The advantages of familiarity well outscore the annoyances.
Perhaps.
Well, it does make it a bad thing as Facebook can disappear or change (as it's happened to group pages) and if the content is *exclusively there*, it is lost. The key here is to try and not post there exclusively and share back whatever valuable unique information may be seen there. Google makes it easy for all its properties to keep your data (see http://www.dataliberation.org/) but one key component is missing: the social relationships people give to the data. This is part of the warning we need to keep in mind when using such servcies. As such, I prefer duplicating such relationships elsewhere for now. Cheers, Fabian Rodriguez Montreal, QC, Canada http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~ http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5t1ckACgkQfUcTXFrypNVLYACg2BpPflAhRognvjom5t3TtdnA VDIAoOUVxQFh5xDNgQ7ycG7HVTVgd8Ra =ShGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
No interest in chat about forums & other buzz words, opinions on that endless, like "Which beer or laptop best" Could have been discussed months ago. Too late now. Its getting very near SFD day. Best keep list quiet & reading time minimal, clear for anything new that might arise. eg URLs to .iso's & lists of lectures one can borrow from elsewhere on the globe if a local lecturer can't get his presentation prepared in time. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct.
I preffer cdlibre http://www.cdlibre.org/consultar/catalogo/index.html <--- last update on 28 ago 2011 -- =========Miembro Ubuntu Colombia========== ==...Gratis lo recibisteis; dadlo gratis. (Mt 10, 8)== Mi Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/ingforigua http://www.gnewbook.org/pg/profile/IngForigua
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Ingeniero Forigua <ingeniero.forigua@gmail.com> wrote:
I preffer cdlibre http://www.cdlibre.org/consultar/catalogo/index.html
CDlibre is non-English. Is there English version of website + download link ? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
My current difficulties with project Qumble: 1. No Free OSS/Java for Windows. Libre office keeps constantly warning users and complaining about lacking Java. No known way to silence it up. But there is *no* OSS Java for Windows. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/index.html 2. WebM -- how to recode videos (from MPEG and WMV) to WebM ? Any Free GUI program for this task ? If not, any non-Free? If not, any non-GUI ? 3. I'm looking to integrate Sumatra PDF. "Sumatra PDF is a Free PDF, XPS, DjVu, CBZ and CBR reader for Windows. It is very small, light-weight and starts up very fast." In fact I have even filled TheOpenCD-style Review Form for this software: http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6 Anybody can help me write a better description for Sumatra PDF? All in all I hope to achieve a production quality stable release of Qumble in several weeks. (without help it will take months) Thanks in advance, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
4. Any Tutorials / Free Books for LibreOffice that I could include? (in TheOpenCD times we had a flash tutorial made by "Global Training Services", but the company seems to be bankrupt now) 5. Any Tutorials / Free Books for The GIMP that I could include? (in TheOpenCD times we used Grokking the GIMP, but it is too outdated now) -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
My current difficulties with project Qumble: 1. No Free OSS/Java for Windows.
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/build/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html OpenJDK builds on Windows...
2. WebM -- how to recode videos (from MPEG and WMV) to WebM ? Any Free GUI program for this task ? If not, any non-Free? If not, any non-GUI ?
http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/ (GPL) Hope this helps, -- Marcos Marado http://ansol.org
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Marcos Marado <mindboosternoori@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
My current difficulties with project Qumble: 1. No Free OSS/Java for Windows.
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/build/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html
OpenJDK builds on Windows...
2. WebM -- how to recode videos (from MPEG and WMV) to WebM ? Any Free GUI program for this task ? If not, any non-Free? If not, any non-GUI ?
Thanks ! Testing converter... I'm unable to open the JDK readme -- is this link broken? I have made a BETA1 release of Qumble. http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9&p=11#p11 -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
On 30/08/11 22:42, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Hi all !
I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new.
how is opendisc inactive? ======================================== www.theopendisc.com OpenDisc 11.09 Released! Posted September 7th @ 6:54 am by Chris Gray We’re happy to announce the latest version of OpenDisc is available for free download, with nearly 40 updated versions, and a switch from OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice. ======================================== However, I wish you well with a new project -- alan cocks Ubuntu user
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:39 PM, alan c <aeclist@candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
On 30/08/11 22:42, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Hi all !
I have started new Open-Source distro for Windows, based on TheOpenCD, copying it's look and feel. Original TheOpenCD and it's fork, theopendisc, are both inactive. It is time for something new.
how is opendisc inactive?
Yes, now active, but they had a pause of about 10 months, which is very long period for an Open-Source project, so I thought they were inactive. Anyway, I don't like it -- neither the CD browser, nor the lack of user community forum, so I established Qumble. Link: www.qumble.org -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
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alan c
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Alexandro Colorado
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Alexey Eromenko
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Fabián Rodríguez
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Frederic Muller - SFI
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Ingeniero Forigua
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Ivan Shmakov
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Julian H. Stacey
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Manmohan Brahma
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Marcos Marado
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Phil Harper
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Seun Ojedeji