Hi! Taking your message within the context of your former post and installs problems I can sympathize. I too, have a PPC Macbook and it's running Linux. There were a few quirks during the installation, notably with the multimedia side of the machine. Now what SFD is focusing on, is about reaching out to non-users of Free Software, and that can start with running FOSS applications on their proprietary OS. So in some ways we should be explaining what is Software Freedom and why it matters, then wait for our audience to ask us what to do next (rather than "forcing" them to a most likely not successful GNU/Linux adventure). I believe a migration path should be as smooth as possible and people should do it because they understand and care, not because it's hype or gratis. I'm just wondering what are doing the 2-300 team leaders of last year? Have they already forgotten about Software Freedom, did they celebrate because of the free Sun or SFD stuff (and then what good is it to send stuff to people who only care when they are freebies)? I have a lot of questions on my mind and I'd like to hear what people think. Thanks. Fred On 09/17/2010 03:50 PM, don warner saklad wrote:

It appears we haven't come up with an easy way to connect all who're interested with GNU/Linux . I'm one who's trying and failing to understand install instructions even after following and advocating the movement for years.

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:50 AM, don warner saklad <don.saklad@gmail.com>wrote:

It appears we haven't come up with an easy way to connect all who're interested with GNU/Linux . I'm one who's trying and failing to understand install instructions even after following and advocating the movement for years.

I have become very pragmatic when it comes to new users that want to use GNU/Linux and have issues with installing it. Most of the time I have to think in terms of technology rather than idealism. And users become more consumers than developers. There is this notion and pride that GNU/Linux should run anywhere, but like the rest of technology and things, it really doesn't and is best to buy whatever hardware you need. For people that wants to try a Mac they have to buy a whole system, but the GNU/Linux people sometimes they have it better. Sometimes is a network dongle, some other times is a soundboard, but in the end the goal is to understand that like any other technology people should try to make an effort to make it easy for technology to run. So my advice always is, have you thought on getting new hardware. Some people don't agree with this method for some weird reason, because for other things, they see no problem into trying the same solution. I.E. if you want to try a new game or technology, get a better system. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org