Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2010 registration is OPEN!!!
On 07/20/2010 12:58 PM, Arif Syamsudin wrote:
On 07/20/2010 11:42 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI wrote:
Dear Arif,
From looking at the website I see the event date seems to be around October (can't be sure). I am not exactly sure what you're trying to achieve in fact. If you want to participate in SFD you need to organize an SFD event on September 18th (or around that date assuming you have good reasons to change it).
I see you're already organizing a Linux conference so why would you want your event to be considered a SFD event since it's a Linux conference? Quite different objectives in my views.
Looking forward to getting your answers.
Fred
dear fred,
big thank for you quick reply.
the conference itself only take 2 days (october 23rd and 24th). other than that, the ilc is consists of various activities that involve open source softwares. and we're hoping, with that kind of materials, we can have the event count as a softwarefreedomday event. if the event is not possible to consider as an sfd event, that would be fine.
we will try to gather "ammunition" to create an sfd event here in bogor, indonesia. september 18th right? thank you again for your kind attention :).
best regard,
Dear Arif, Looking at the introduction page on your site I read "/Indonesia Linux Conference/ (ILC) is an annual nationwide series of activities which consist of conferences, seminars, workshops, training, competitions and exhibitions related to the Linux operating system." Now I believe SFD has a very different focus. It's not about Linux, it's about getting people, anybody, aware and understand what Free Software is. In fact telling people with no or little ideas of what Free Software is, that they should use Linux might confuse them: it might be a too big step. On the contrary recommending FOSS alternative to software they're already using on Windows or MAC OS for example, showing them how easy it is to use without losing their other applications and habits will be a much more successful path. People don't change habits with no reason, and they need time. A happy Firefox or OOo user might consider trying Linux after a few months, an unhappy Linux user will never look back to Free Software and give our community a bad name. Also take into consideration that the way you address and attract people to a Linux conference and Software Freedom Day event should be very different. Your audience is different, and the marketing efforts you will put in will be different. My problems here, is not really about the date, but a lot more about the message and effectiveness of getting your Linux event as a recognized SFD event. In my opinion you would do much better by making a smaller scale SFD event in September and using the buzz from every other events to attract non Free Software users interested in both the concept and the options at hand. Please do consider the above with your team. Thank you for your interest and discussing the issue with everyone, I am sure this will help other teams as well in their event preparation. Best regards, Fred SFI
Dear Fred, I'm from Mekelle Ethiopia. I tried and couldn't create a team page. All I get is the message " The team wiki page you specified, http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Africa/Ethiopia/Mekelle, does not exist. Please create your team's wiki page first before submitting your registration. Use the Back button on your browser to return to the registration form and try again. " Sorry for not beinig able to solve it myself. I tried enough not to try more. peace, Asmelash
Dear Asmelash, No worries. Let us guide you through the necessary steps: 1. You need to create a wiki account at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount 2. Login 3. Now from the wiki front page (http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/ ) you follow the link that says "SFD 2010 <http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010> - This is the central page to find or add a team worldwide! " Direct link is: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010 4. From there you go to your continent which is Africa: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Africa 5. Look for Ethiopia and... it doesn't exist yet! 6. Create you country: at the bottom of this page there is a text box where you simply type Ethiopia and it will create the page for you. 7. Now you're in edit mode for your country. You might want to replace "SFD @PAGE@" by "SFD 2010 Ethiopia" and eventually add a description of your country. One source that comes to my mind is wikipedia, just copy the introduction and that will be a good start. 8. Save the page. Do not forget to answer the question just below the save button! 9. You are now on your country page asking you to create a new City or Region. Same process, enter what suit best your event location, do the text change and add a bit of description. I guess you will chose Mek'ele here. 10. Save. Remember the question under the save button! 11. You're now on your City page. You can create your Team page. Save thing, there is a text box at the bottom of the page where you can just type in the Team name and validate: it will automatically create your team page. 12. Edit your page with all the details needed. 13. Go back to you city page and replace Team1 with your team name and add a link to your team page (which should be /2010/Africa/Ethiopia/Mek'ele/YourTeamName (YourTeamName is your real team name). Save again. You're done. Now in the registration form you will just have to enter Africa/Ethiopia/Mek'ele/YourTeamName and it will work. The process is a bit long because you're the first team in Ethiopia. However by following those steps you ensure people looking at the team list http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CategoryTeam or at the Region list http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CategoryRegion will find your city and your team. Also please do not remove the CategoryTeam tag from your team list: it is that which makes the listing automatic. I hope this was clear enough. Let us know if you're still having issues. Thanks. Fred On 07/23/2010 12:40 AM, Asmelash Teka wrote:
Dear Fred,
I'm from Mekelle Ethiopia. I tried and couldn't create a team page. All I get is the message " The team wiki page you specified, http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Africa/Ethiopia/Mekelle, does not exist. Please create your team's wiki page first before submitting your registration. Use the Back button on your browser to return to the registration form and try again. " Sorry for not beinig able to solve it myself. I tried enough not to try more.
peace,
Asmelash
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Hi all, Made the registration and everything anew at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Pune/SFDPune . Its just a plug as of right now, when I get more time will do it better. Its something to do in the meantime. I also added the city and the details so people from the city can just add the team directly. Now what's the procedure for getting the goodies this time around ? Shouldn't there have been a place where I could send my address in the form itself. All for now. Btw like the new theme on the wiki. Its definitely an improvement as is the changeover to OSM . Like it. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
Addition in-line :- 2010/7/23 shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com>:
Hi all, Made the registration and everything anew at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Pune/SFDPune . Its just a plug as of right now, when I get more time will do it better. Its something to do in the meantime. I also added the city and the details so people from the city can just add the team directly.
Now what's the procedure for getting the goodies this time around ? Shouldn't there have been a place where I could send my address in the form itself.
Disregard the last line. I do get an error while trying to fill the same in the registeration . http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/register.html If there are errors or mistakes during registeration it should highlight them. It doesn't do that right now. It says I filled the whole thing and still it says http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Pune/SFDPune does that need to be verified or something/ some permissions issue perhaps ? Please look into the same.
All for now. Btw like the new theme on the wiki. Its definitely an improvement as is the changeover to OSM . Like it.
-- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
On 07/24/2010 12:15 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
Addition in-line :-
2010/7/23 shirish शिरीष<shirishag75@gmail.com>:
Hi all, Made the registration and everything anew at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Pune/SFDPune . Its just a plug as of right now, when I get more time will do it better. Its something to do in the meantime. I also added the city and the details so people from the city can just add the team directly.
Now what's the procedure for getting the goodies this time around ? Shouldn't there have been a place where I could send my address in the form itself.
Disregard the last line. I do get an error while trying to fill the same in the registeration .
http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/register.html
If there are errors or mistakes during registeration it should highlight them. It doesn't do that right now.
It says
I filled the whole thing and still it says http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Pune/SFDPune
The URL is wrong. wiki page should have year (2010) and continent (Asia) then country (India) and then your city etc... There is a good guide to follow here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage Hope that helps. Fred
does that need to be verified or something/ some permissions issue perhaps ? Please look into the same.
All for now. Btw like the new theme on the wiki. Its definitely an improvement as is the changeover to OSM . Like it.
In-line :- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 21:53, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: <snipped>
The URL is wrong. wiki page should have year (2010) and continent (Asia) then country (India) and then your city etc...
Right. Corrected and registered.
There is a good guide to follow here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage
Looked at it. Looks good. Btw this time the schwag is limited to just CD's, what happened to the T-shirts, labels etc? I can't find any relevant discussions on the same. Another thing there doesn't seem to be anyway to know how many cities have how many events or/and how many cities in a country are hosting events. For e.g. if I look at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/ as I'm interested to know how many events are being held in each city (19 at today's count) there's no way to know that. Can something be done about that so it renders/comes something as an e.g. :- 3. 2010/Asia/India/Bangalore (2) Some sort of script which takes http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore?highlight=%28\bCategoryRegion\b%29 and sorts of finds entries below the Teams page. Although it would have been lot better if it spelled like http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore#Teams or something similar like that. That itself should have been talked about in the Create Team page
Hope that helps.
Fred
Just my 2 paise. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
Ok i'll reply inline too.. On 07/25/2010 09:28 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
In-line :-
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 21:53, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote:
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The URL is wrong. wiki page should have year (2010) and continent (Asia) then country (India) and then your city etc...
Right. Corrected and registered.
There is a good guide to follow here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage
Looked at it. Looks good.
Btw this time the schwag is limited to just CD's, what happened to the T-shirts, labels etc?
Due to less sponsors this year (still working on it, but some will only give their response next month - so too late to be able to ship) we cannot ship the T-shirts, etc. SFD has also been in the red being supported in part by former and current presidents. We believe it is time for us to spend less than what we can collect. Hopefully we'll be able to get more sponsors and make up with better gifts for the competition (2009 & 2010)
I can't find any relevant discussions on the same.
Another thing there doesn't seem to be anyway to know how many cities have how many events or/and how many cities in a country are hosting events.
For e.g. if I look at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/ as I'm interested to know how many events are being held in each city (19 at today's count) there's no way to know that. Can something be done about that so it renders/comes something as an e.g. :-
There are 2 ways: 1. the map @ http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/map.shtml you get an instant visual representation of how many teams are already registered. The link is at the top of the registration form as well and tells people to check before registering. 2. You can edit the country page to list all the teams pages under India (if you cannot, I can... ;-) )
3. 2010/Asia/India/Bangalore (2)
Some sort of script which takes http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore?highlight=%28\bCategoryRegion\b%29
and sorts of finds entries below the Teams page. Although it would have been lot better if it spelled like
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore#Teams or something similar like that.
That itself should have been talked about in the Create Team page
I don't understand this point. The Bangalore page can be accessed by going directly to (without the extra highlight parameters): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore and actually http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore#teams takes you to the Teams section on that page. So what is not working on your side? (the page being rather short, it stays within the screen though, that's a browser behavior). Thanks. Looking forward for your replies. Fred
In-line :- On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 20:32, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote:
Ok i'll reply inline too..
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Due to less sponsors this year (still working on it, but some will only give their response next month - so too late to be able to ship) we cannot ship the T-shirts, etc. SFD has also been in the red being supported in part by former and current presidents. We believe it is time for us to spend less than what we can collect.
Hopefully we'll be able to get more sponsors and make up with better gifts for the competition (2009 & 2010)
Right. understood. <snipped>
There are 2 ways: 1. the map @ http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/map.shtml you get an instant visual representation of how many teams are already registered. The link is at the top of the registration form as well and tells people to check before registering.
The map is good, but not good enough till it doesn't know from where you are.
2. You can edit the country page to list all the teams pages under India (if you cannot, I can... ;-) )
True but it shouldn't be needed. What I was talking about is having some kind of automation. On mediawiki this happens automatically. <snipped>
I don't understand this point. The Bangalore page can be accessed by going directly to (without the extra highlight parameters): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore
Yup. For some reason it didn't work that day. Now it does.
and actually http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore#teams takes you to the Teams section on that page. So what is not working on your side? (the page being rather short, it stays within the screen though, that's a browser behavior).
ah ok. I tried it now with http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Europe/Germany/Berlin#Teams and it works, apologies the issue as rightly pointed out is a browser issue.
Thanks.
Looking forward for your replies.
Fred
-- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
some precisions below: On 07/26/2010 11:51 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
The map is good, but not good enough till it doesn't know from where you are.
But you, so you can zoom in with your mouse wheel or by clicking and dragging the map. You get to see exactly how many events are happening around your place to a precision any listing cannot give you (if you have 10 events in the same city, the listing is definitely not useful). You also have to consider that right now we have about "only" 200 teams registered, but by mid September when people (visitors) are going to look for an event we will have somewhere between 800 and 1000 teams (I hope at least). A page with 100 lines is not useful neither (i'm taking 100 lines considering how fast Indian teams are registering. With this kind of popularity it could as well be more. China had 86 teams last year FWIW).
2. You can edit the country page to list all the teams pages under India (if you cannot, I can... ;-) )
True but it shouldn't be needed. What I was talking about is having some kind of automation. On mediawiki this happens automatically.
For the reason stated above we believe it should be automatic but a decision from each teams/country. This is a wiki and you can edit it by yourself. You can create a template for your country and make sure people use it. We're a community and you can make decisions for your area. Based on the issues we're having this year (maintenance wise for example) and what people do with the wiki, we'll built next year system to incorporate those necessary features.
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I don't understand this point. The Bangalore page can be accessed by going directly to (without the extra highlight parameters): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore
Yup. For some reason it didn't work that day. Now it does. Glad you got your two issues working.
Fred
There is a question at the bottom of the form to ask whether you want the CDs or not. You answer no and there is no form to fill your address, you answer yes and the form appears. Fred On 07/24/2010 12:08 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
Hi all, Made the registration and everything anew at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Pune/SFDPune . Its just a plug as of right now, when I get more time will do it better. Its something to do in the meantime. I also added the city and the details so people from the city can just add the team directly.
Now what's the procedure for getting the goodies this time around ? Shouldn't there have been a place where I could send my address in the form itself.
All for now. Btw like the new theme on the wiki. Its definitely an improvement as is the changeover to OSM . Like it.
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shirish शिरीष