Hi! We hope you are all doing ok despite the current problem(s). We received an email from the 'Document Foundation' (Italo Vignoli to be precise). It turned out that way: "The new board at The Document Foundation, the home of LibreOffice, is interested in getting the documentfreedom.org domain from FSFE, as the community is willing to manage the website and the Document Freedom Day activities starting from 2021. The current documentfreedom.org website is still pointing at DFD 2018, so it has not been updated for the last two years, and this is not good for the open source ecosystem and for the Open Document Format, which in the meantime has reached version 1.3. Please let me know your thoughts on the above. Of course, if we get the domain and website, we will be more than happy to see contributions from other projects." We nicely told them the project was active and when contacting LO over 2 years ago they said they had no interest in DFD (I have the message if anyone is interested). And while we would definitely welcome any help, we felt the message was not really nice (or really not nice?) and replied accordingly. Within 2 messages more I was called a liar and told "all the LO people are on the DFD mailing list and haven't seen any communication for 2 years. So here it is. LO will go with a different domain and a same or different event because apparently Italo thinks that if he decides something people should just go along. Just wanted to let everyone know. Kind regards, Fred
If they were really interested in helping Document Freedom Day they would have offered some alternatives other than taking over the domain. Like, maybe, sponsorship, or assistance in updating the website, or offering a venue for a DFD conference.... I have every intention of participating in future Digital Freedom Foundation activities. But life gets in the way of getting things done, sometimes. Keep up the good work, Frederic! --Bob. On 2020-05-06 11:01 a.m., Frederic Muller - DFF wrote:
Hi!
We hope you are all doing ok despite the current problem(s). We received an email from the 'Document Foundation' (Italo Vignoli to be precise).
It turned out that way: "The new board at The Document Foundation, the home of LibreOffice, is interested in getting the documentfreedom.org domain from FSFE, as the community is willing to manage the website and the Document Freedom Day activities starting from 2021.
The current documentfreedom.org website is still pointing at DFD 2018, so it has not been updated for the last two years, and this is not good for the open source ecosystem and for the Open Document Format, which in the meantime has reached version 1.3.
Please let me know your thoughts on the above. Of course, if we get the domain and website, we will be more than happy to see contributions from other projects."
We nicely told them the project was active and when contacting LO over 2 years ago they said they had no interest in DFD (I have the message if anyone is interested).
And while we would definitely welcome any help, we felt the message was not really nice (or really not nice?) and replied accordingly. Within 2 messages more I was called a liar and told "all the LO people are on the DFD mailing list and haven't seen any communication for 2 years.
So here it is. LO will go with a different domain and a same or different event because apparently Italo thinks that if he decides something people should just go along.
Just wanted to let everyone know.
Kind regards,
Fred
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Yes I was also thinking the same. It sounded like a 0 or 1, with nothing in the middle from an organization which has told me (a board member) that they had no interest in DFD. And when they change their mind we can only say yes? ... Thank you for the response and support and hopefully next year will be more prone to organize events. Fred On 5/11/20 3:09 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
If they were really interested in helping Document Freedom Day they would have offered some alternatives other than taking over the domain. Like, maybe, sponsorship, or assistance in updating the website, or offering a venue for a DFD conference....
I have every intention of participating in future Digital Freedom Foundation activities. But life gets in the way of getting things done, sometimes.
Keep up the good work, Frederic!
--Bob.
On 2020-05-06 11:01 a.m., Frederic Muller - DFF wrote:
Hi!
We hope you are all doing ok despite the current problem(s). We received an email from the 'Document Foundation' (Italo Vignoli to be precise).
It turned out that way: "The new board at The Document Foundation, the home of LibreOffice, is interested in getting the documentfreedom.org domain from FSFE, as the community is willing to manage the website and the Document Freedom Day activities starting from 2021.
The current documentfreedom.org website is still pointing at DFD 2018, so it has not been updated for the last two years, and this is not good for the open source ecosystem and for the Open Document Format, which in the meantime has reached version 1.3.
Please let me know your thoughts on the above. Of course, if we get the domain and website, we will be more than happy to see contributions from other projects."
We nicely told them the project was active and when contacting LO over 2 years ago they said they had no interest in DFD (I have the message if anyone is interested).
And while we would definitely welcome any help, we felt the message was not really nice (or really not nice?) and replied accordingly. Within 2 messages more I was called a liar and told "all the LO people are on the DFD mailing list and haven't seen any communication for 2 years.
So here it is. LO will go with a different domain and a same or different event because apparently Italo thinks that if he decides something people should just go along.
Just wanted to let everyone know.
Kind regards,
Fred
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Hi Fred Peace be upon you and Thanks for your mail. বুধ, ৬ মে, ২০২০ তারিখে ৯:০৩ PM টায় এ Frederic Muller - DFF < fred@digitalfreedomfoundation.org> লিখেছেন:
Hi! We hope you are all doing ok despite the current problem(s). We received an email from the 'Document Foundation' (Italo Vignoli to be precise).
It turned out that way: "The new board at The Document Foundation, the home of LibreOffice, is interested in getting the documentfreedom.org domain from FSFE, as the community is willing to manage the website and the Document Freedom Day activities starting from 2021.
The current documentfreedom.org website is still pointing at DFD 2018, so it has not been updated for the last two years, and this is not good for the open source ecosystem and for the Open Document Format, which in the meantime has reached version 1.3.
Please let me know your thoughts on the above. Of course, if we get the domain and website, we will be more than happy to see contributions from other projects."
We nicely told them the project was active and when contacting LO over 2 years ago they said they had no interest in DFD (I have the message if anyone is interested).
And while we would definitely welcome any help, we felt the message was not really nice (or really not nice?) and replied accordingly. Within 2 messages more I was called a liar and told "all the LO people are on the DFD mailing list and haven't seen any communication for 2 years.
So here it is. LO will go with a different domain and a same or different event because apparently Italo thinks that if he decides something people should just go along.
Just wanted to let everyone know.
We the FOSS Bangladesh team take part in SFD, DFD, EFD since 2011 and try our level best to held a seminar in our local university or college campus on the event day. Please let me know how may FOSS Bangladesh team help in this current scenario. -- রিং/ring মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh
On 5/11/20 4:23 PM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote:
We the FOSS Bangladesh team take part in SFD, DFD, EFD since 2011 and try our level best to held a seminar in our local university or college campus on the event day.
Please let me know how may FOSS Bangladesh team help in this current scenario.
Well I believe most of us have big issues than DFD 2021 at the current time. So let give it a few months to rest and see how the situation evolves on both fronts. Maybe disucssing SFD in a different thread would make sense but it really doesn't sound like it would make sense to encourage poeple organizing events when big parts of the world are in lockdown or hardly getting out of it without any certainty of what the future may be. Thank you too for your support. Fred
I can confirm that the Portuguese plans for SFD 2020 have been postponed to 2021. On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:33 AM Frederic Muller - DFF <fred@digitalfreedomfoundation.org> wrote:
On 5/11/20 4:23 PM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote:
We the FOSS Bangladesh team take part in SFD, DFD, EFD since 2011 and try our level best to held a seminar in our local university or college campus on the event day.
Please let me know how may FOSS Bangladesh team help in this current scenario.
Well I believe most of us have big issues than DFD 2021 at the current time. So let give it a few months to rest and see how the situation evolves on both fronts.
Maybe disucssing SFD in a different thread would make sense but it really doesn't sound like it would make sense to encourage poeple organizing events when big parts of the world are in lockdown or hardly getting out of it without any certainty of what the future may be.
Thank you too for your support.
Fred
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