From: Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplus.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:54:17 +0300

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আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you On 8/16/20 8:31 AM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote:

Dear Sir

সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm@gmail.com <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন:

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote:

> Other possibilities: > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/

None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software.

Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully available?

Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a Libre software.

Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't approved by the FSF.  Thanks.

For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet at https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your own server or vps. :) What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol It has an open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use with many participants since all streams are relayed.

Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/ https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open-...

with regards. -- রিং/ring

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Dear রিং/ring আলাইকুম আসসালামু / And also upon you On 8/24/20 10:16 AM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote:

Dear Benson আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you

রবি, ১৬ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ১২:২৬ PM টায় এ Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplus.org <mailto:benson_muite@emailplus.org>> লিখেছেন:

What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS

https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol It has an open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server

See here you got into an "Open Source" Software which does not ensure "Users Freedom" as we mean "Free", but it is "For Free" as "Price Zero" with the only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software". :) These have licenses that give system administrator freedom. When the software is deployed on a remote server, user is free to accept or reject whatever choices the system administrator decides :) The licenses are: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE

If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use with many participants since all streams are relayed.

Surely bandwidth is an issue to setup or run your own video streaming service. You may use jitsi on their server and may ask them for greater audience support. Else you may raise some fund and setup and run scalable server. I think it may be worth running a small crowd funding campaign for this. Might you be willing to help?

Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/

You may use these at this moment to serve your purpose.

Good!

https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open-...

This one is bad for user freedom.

With regards. -- রিং/ring

মহাসচিব/General Secretary

This is a powerful position, see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Secretary_of_the_Communist_Party_of_th...

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Hi all I didn't realize that you people are looking for a web conferencing service - the subject line just said "SFD 2020). Here is an insider tipp. CH Open [1], a long standing established group pro FOSS has recently launched a web conferencing server [2], free as freedom and free as free lunch. The software platform is BigBlueButton (BBB) [3]. Anybody can register and ask for a "video room". The coordinator of each "stall" or "track" or whatever in SFD, get such a room, and publish them on your homepage. Advised to publish the real link the last minute and keep an assistant monitoring the happenings to avoid "Zoom bombs". BTW, BBB is the most popular web conferencing program in the Moodle landscape. It just needs a modern browser, Firefox, Chrome or Edge. The computer needs to be fairly new, the HTML5 interface requires lot of power. And BBB is feature-rich. Usual text chat, etc. but also screen sharing and group white board! Do intensive trial runs as early as possible. If you worry about capacity - I know, it is a very powerful server and a big group broken in to many rooms need much less power than all in one room, provided all stream their video - you can write to CH Open (send me a copy). [1] https://www.ch-open.ch [2] https://bbb.ch-open.ch/b [3] https://bigbluebutton.org/ Have fun! I'll make it a point to read this thread - not all the other "SFD 2020" threads! Visvanath

Hi all, This year here in Brazil we are doing a "big national SFD online". So, this time we are not working with the idea to have "SFD per city". We are encouraging people and communities to produce contents in portuguese over internet e publish them on september 19th. These contents (live or not) can be talks, workshops, meetings, and so on, but focus on Free Software. http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2020/Brazil/Online Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450

Dear Benson আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you মঙ্গল, ২৫ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৬:৪২ PM টায় এ Benson Muite < benson_muite@emailplus.org> লিখেছেন:

...

https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE

Brother, By the word "User" me and the license mean All who uses this software anyway. So the Server Admin or System Administrator is also an "User". And only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software" applied here. Read the license you mentioned here and I hope you will get the point clearly as I have told. :)

First license is Mozilla Public License 2, which FSF has listed as free software license (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html) The second one is under MIT/Expat license which is also listed as a free license by the FSF (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html). Maybe I am missing something though.

https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE have been under MPLv2 but https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE is under MIT which is not a compatible Free Software License. If you have to blend these 2 to meet your purpose then you are not using Free Software anymore but the blend will become a proprietary one. Freedom once compromised then you are not having the freedom anymore brother. :) with regards -- রিং/ring মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh

Dear all, I understand the importance of FOSS, and the necessity to use it ourselves. Yet, if I have to choose between the event not happening (because stranding on nobody willing/able) to provide the needed expertise and bandwith or the event happening on some closed source streaming server... I will choose the latter everyday of the week. So unless there is someone standing up and offering to supply for this open source streaming service, I will applaud any single person doing whatever initiative it is. Jurgen, Just some FOSS-minded dude. On 16/08/2020 07:31, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote:

Dear Sir

সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm@gmail.com <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন:

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote:

> Other possibilities: > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/

None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software.

Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully available?

Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a Libre software.

Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't approved by the FSF.  Thanks.

For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet at https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your own server or vps. :)

with regards. -- রিং/ring

মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh

মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian

সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh

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