Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 53, Issue 5
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1. Re: Goodies update (Frederic Muller - SFI) 2. Re: Goodies update (Sridhar Gutam)
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:24:16 +0800 From: Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss@sf-day.org> Message-ID: <4E3F8F20.9020800@softwarefreedomday.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
The answer is in my email. Read it again...
Fred
On 08/08/2011 03:10 PM, Sridhar Gutam wrote:
How can we know that if our Team CISH Free Software Users (Lucknow, India) is qualified for the Goodies?
Thanks & Regards Sridhar _________________________________________________________________________ *Sridhar Gutam* PhD, ARS, PG Dip Patent Laws (NALSAR), IP & Biotechnology (WIPO) Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) & Joint Secretary, ARSSF Central Institute for Subtropical Horticulture (CISH) Rehmankhera, P.O.Kakori, Lucknow 227107, Uttar Pradesh, India Fax: +91-522-2841025, Phone: +91-522-2841022/23/24 http://www.cishlko.org http://works.bepress.com/sridhar_gutam/ Mobile:+91-9005760036, +91-8010033013
On 7 August 2011 15:05, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org <mailto:fred@softwarefreedomday.org>> wrote:
Hi again!
As we clearly stated at the registration opening only the first 200 teams registered before August 2nd would get a team pack (this is a financial and logistic limit). It turns out we had about an extra 23 teams who registered before the deadline.
So for those teams who registered passed the 200 mark but still were able to provide an address we are very happy to announce that Google has provided us with extra funding and we'll be able to ship the team supplies for you too!
I'm personally very excited by the goodies this year. Thanks to the marketing team feedback we have iron-transfer stickers to make your own T-Shirts. It's a lot lighter and cheaper and allows us to provide somehow 'more t-shirts' for everybody. The design also matches our new website design and uses the new logo made by Jeff Lim, and we love it.
I did my own t-shirt and I was so happy to wear it. One thing the SFI board was afraid of with iron-transfer technology was the quality. Well I think we managed very well on that end.
So a big thank you to Google, a big thank you to you for making SFD happen every year and Happy SFD.
Please do help us to spread the word, use our banners here http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote , blog, microblog, etc . We'll have a countdown counter up soon as well.
Fred ps: goodies will start shipping early next week. howto: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/TshirtLabels
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:00:54 +0530 From: Sridhar Gutam <gutam2000@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss@sf-day.org> Message-ID: <CA+4KT3o3yQ8iivAE1ztpaj-xC2Z7f83TyYt7Okd3t1QwFFDjyQ@mail.gmail.com
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Fred,
Thanks. I am curious to know about our team inclusion. From your mail, we qualify that we have registered on 2nd Aug, but are we into that 200+23?
Thanks & Regards Sridhar _________________________________________________________________________ *Sridhar Gutam* PhD, ARS, PG Dip Patent Laws (NALSAR), IP & Biotechnology (WIPO) Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) & Joint Secretary, ARSSF Central Institute for Subtropical Horticulture (CISH) Rehmankhera, P.O.Kakori, Lucknow 227107, Uttar Pradesh, India Fax: +91-522-2841025, Phone: +91-522-2841022/23/24 http://www.cishlko.org http://works.bepress.com/sridhar_gutam/ Mobile:+91-9005760036, +91-8010033013
On 8 August 2011 12:54, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org>wrote:
The answer is in my email. Read it again...
Fred
On 08/08/2011 03:10 PM, Sridhar Gutam wrote:
How can we know that if our Team CISH Free Software Users (Lucknow, India) is qualified for the Goodies?
Thanks & Regards Sridhar
*Sridhar Gutam* PhD, ARS, PG Dip Patent Laws (NALSAR), IP & Biotechnology (WIPO) Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) & Joint Secretary, ARSSF Central Institute for Subtropical Horticulture (CISH) Rehmankhera, P.O.Kakori, Lucknow 227107, Uttar Pradesh, India Fax: +91-522-2841025, Phone: +91-522-2841022/23/24 http://www.cishlko.org http://works.bepress.com/sridhar_gutam/ Mobile:+91-9005760036, +91-8010033013
On 7 August 2011 15:05, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org <mailto:fred@softwarefreedomday.org>> wrote:
Hi again!
As we clearly stated at the registration opening only the first 200 teams registered before August 2nd would get a team pack (this is a financial and logistic limit). It turns out we had about an extra 23 teams who registered before the deadline.
So for those teams who registered passed the 200 mark but still were able to provide an address we are very happy to announce that Google has provided us with extra funding and we'll be able to ship the team supplies for you too!
I'm personally very excited by the goodies this year. Thanks to the marketing team feedback we have iron-transfer stickers to make your own T-Shirts. It's a lot lighter and cheaper and allows us to provide somehow 'more t-shirts' for everybody. The design also matches our new website design and uses the new logo made by Jeff Lim, and we love it.
I did my own t-shirt and I was so happy to wear it. One thing the SFI board was afraid of with iron-transfer technology was the quality. Well I think we managed very well on that end.
So a big thank you to Google, a big thank you to you for making SFD happen every year and Happy SFD.
Please do help us to spread the word, use our banners here http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote , blog, microblog, etc . We'll have a countdown counter up soon as well.
Fred ps: goodies will start shipping early next week. howto: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/TshirtLabels
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On 08/08/2011 08:06 PM, Jaysel Noma Ramos wrote:
sir frederic muller, how many tshirt we can avail from your organization.. or the tally of materials we can get.??
http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/08/sfd2011-schwag-ready/ We try really hard to communicate, obviously we're failing. This question has been asked way too many times. Please read, look at our planet (this is where the community talks about thing), look at our blog, etc Thanks. Fred ps: planet URL: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/community/sfd-planet
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI < fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote:
On 08/08/2011 08:06 PM, Jaysel Noma Ramos wrote:
sir frederic muller, how many tshirt we can avail from your organization.. or the tally of materials we can get.??
http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/08/sfd2011-schwag-ready/
We try really hard to communicate, obviously we're failing.
This question has been asked way too many times. Please read, look at our planet (this is where the community talks about thing), look at our blog, etc
I suggest to link that information somewherre from the registration page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This should be also on the startup guide as well IMO. The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams during the registration process and also why register on time (although that time had passed). There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more careful.
Thanks.
Fred ps: planet URL: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/community/sfd-planet
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On 08/08/2011 11:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
I suggest to link that information somewhere from the registration page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This should be also on the startup guide as well IMO.
That has been suggested as people (not reading stuff) don't know what they'll be getting. This is something we'll try to do next year but there are limitations as goodies depend on how much money we can raise. Now that Goodies offer is off, there is no need to place it on the registration form.
The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams during the registration process and also why register on time (although that time had passed).
There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more careful.
Every year we have 20+ that do not register on the map. I EMAIL EVERY ONE OF THEM PERSONALLY (sometimes more than once) and therefore have little to no excuse. I have had people also telling me (yes I also email people who answered "no" to goodies) that they think other teams will need those more than them, in remote or third world countries (bad internet, bad infrastructure, etc...). Last but not least, organizing SFD means that you need to pay a little attention to what's happening globally and subscribe to the mailing list. It's low traffic and you sometimes actually learn stuff. As you can see I do a lot of spoon feeding and running an SFD event is something team leaders should take seriously. Most do. Fred
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI < fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote:
On 08/08/2011 11:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
I suggest to link that information somewhere from the registration page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This should be also on the startup guide as well IMO.
That has been suggested as people (not reading stuff) don't know what they'll be getting. This is something we'll try to do next year but there are limitations as goodies depend on how much money we can raise.
Now that Goodies offer is off, there is no need to place it on the registration form.
The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams during the registration process and also why register on time (although that time had passed).
There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more careful.
Every year we have 20+ that do not register on the map. I EMAIL EVERY ONE OF THEM PERSONALLY (sometimes more than once) and therefore have little to no excuse.
I have had people also telling me (yes I also email people who answered "no" to goodies) that they think other teams will need those more than them, in remote or third world countries (bad internet, bad infrastructure, etc...).
Last but not least, organizing SFD means that you need to pay a little attention to what's happening globally and subscribe to the mailing list. It's low traffic and you sometimes actually learn stuff.
As you can see I do a lot of spoon feeding and running an SFD event is something team leaders should take seriously. Most do.
Yes I agree, however as a content manager is good to link or cross reference relevant content, specially if the main source is remote of the environment (i.e. The wiki or an external blog). Also these seems a bit of a lot of manual work that could be delegated somewhat to auxiliar members of the core group. In my experience lack of good communication skills (language barrier) or involvement path (leads feel as external supporters). A community might not reach it's full potential and some vital information might be run by unnotice. Another issue is the pulverization of information, subconsiously having to subscribe to a mailing list has a feel of commitment that some (including myself) are not always open to. So subscribing to a 'marketing' list just to ask a question and then unsusbscribe seems like a lot of effort and time. Deciding not to subscribe to every single mailing list means that some information might pass through unnotice.
Fred
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On 08/09/2011 12:26 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Another issue is the pulverization of information, subconsiously having to subscribe to a mailing list has a feel of commitment that some (including myself) are not always open to. So subscribing to a 'marketing' list just to ask a question and then unsusbscribe seems like a lot of effort and time. Deciding not to subscribe to every single mailing list means that some information might pass through unnotice.
right. We've been contemplating using a forum based discussion channel as well. The limiting factor is to have integration with moinmoin so people don't need to register yet again. The search is still in progress and hopefully maybe this is something we will be able to provide either in 2011 or 2012. Marketing is not open to all -> one needs to 'apply' (introduce himself and motive his request) to be subscribed. sfd-discuss is open to all. Fred
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