Fwd: Stallman video for SFD
This vídeo was recorded by Richard Stallman for Software Freedom day. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Sturmfels Date: 2010/9/14 Subject: Re: Stallman video for SFD To: Quiliro Ordóñez Cc: rms, Jeanne Rasata [...] Good quality for web viewing (480x270, 28 MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.og... Lower quality (480x270, 13MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day-lo... Ben -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
2010/9/15 Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org>
Nice one. We should add those links in the resource page http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Resources.
Done. -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
Do you know when he recorded? Best regards, 2010/9/15 Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com>:
This vídeo was recorded by Richard Stallman for Software Freedom day.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Sturmfels Date: 2010/9/14 Subject: Re: Stallman video for SFD To: Quiliro Ordóñez Cc: rms, Jeanne Rasata
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Good quality for web viewing (480x270, 28 MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.og...
Lower quality (480x270, 13MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day-lo...
Ben
-- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu! "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
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2010/9/15 Paulo Henrique Santana <phls00@gmail.com>
Do you know when he recorded?
About a week ago. -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
2010/9/15 Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com>:
About a week ago.
Nice! I'm trying to find help to legend in portuguese. -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana http://www.phls.com.br Tel. (41) 9638-1897 GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 .
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Resources#List_of_Movies_you_might_like_t... -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
2010/9/15 Frederic Muller - SFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org>
Hi!
Just finished watching and I find the Steven Fry video much better for an event like SFD http://www.gnu.org/fry/ . It goes on explaining in layman's terms what is Free Software and that's really what we want: getting the word out to educate and encourage people towards their own Software Freedom.
Besides I find Richard's intro is a bit like SFD is his event, and very much pushing his own ideas... while I don't mind so much, it would have been nice of him to acknowledge that others also works towards Software Freedom, and that the FSF is not the sole owner of the term.
I'd like to take this opportunity to send a little hello to any FreeBSD users out there and hope they don't feel "left alone". :)
Happy SFD!
Fred
I can't find where Richard affirms that SFD is his event. The FSF is not even a sponsor of the event. I think it is important to have his opinion presented. He actually started all this. Maybe there are other opinions but I do think the FSF is the organization that most focuses on freedom. Other organizations focus on other qualities of free software. -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Frederic Muller - SFI wrote:
Hi!
Just finished watching and I find the Steven Fry video much better for an event like SFD http://www.gnu.org/fry/ . It goes on explaining in layman's terms what is Free Software and that's really what we want: getting the word out to educate and encourage people towards their own Software Freedom.
The Stephen Fry video is good but I'm not sure about his real commitment to Free Software. Not long after he made that video he posted an article about how great the iPad was, <http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about/>. And if you follow the link to his page from the GNU site, <http://www.gnu.org/fry/>, you are presented with an advert for his new book via "iPad APP" and "iPhone APP". So not so much Freedom Fry but more like iFry.
Besides I find Richard's intro is a bit like SFD is his event, and very much pushing his own ideas... while I don't mind so much, it would have been nice of him to acknowledge that others also works towards Software Freedom, and that the FSF is not the sole owner of the term.
I think Richard's video is good, although maybe a bit heavy for a newcomer but it needs explaining to them at some point. I agree with Quiliro Ordóñez that I don't think Richard makes out that SFD is his event. And its hard to overstate how much Richard has done for Software Freedom, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman>. Its a shame that the FSF didn't come up with Software Freedom Day but I am truly thankful to those that did.
I'd like to take this opportunity to send a little hello to any FreeBSD users out there and hope they don't feel "left alone". :)
And the OpenBSD users, NetBSD users, etc. But how strong is FreeBSD's commitment to Software Freedom? The FreeBSD kernel contains non-free software, see the elements discovered by Debian (Ben Hutchings) as part of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD project: kfreebsd-8: "Includes binary-only and obfuscated C code" <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594940> Note, there are also non-free elements in the Linux kernel <http://kernel.org/> (which is why there is <http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/> and <http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing>) Cheers, Mike. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMoltiAAoJENdybD6q+OPvdfwP/2iK9PKBBfcUSKKU5Z+0GAZj 5p0ShfVoTnMWpUAQ/804jebylN0OnN/HlaevNJLAQPJXQ1rjVDwNQXnlX9XOTJX3 r8mbInJR2FH4RVYQbyCmBp/5PPb2ApKw6xT/AeRqpHVOPHLn4jTxjeeWo5a2NfCx p/lwthl4rnAd21/9Nyny51dycsrKQk34nUY2KtDCHvQAx3CPeIxM79YIOehckRD8 vGVrEsK6aay3J+jbXgqIGJxU9hgsnkR/RkOQAgmKtOl1jTqK/EhuM3aSlRigSUmD 5mjIMOuYqQIHHkKk8izacwhvLjMTKZPWIGE7NRojqVVCht1qBQ8ESbEAMYKta+IS b+t4NDi0lSvjKDzK8m29eGubvUe8X5LssdRHWs0/2LxZcRUfkx9J2653LXgVKGMw Z0PjodljneqtWTxAtRUu1m2iBj8AgWGEmmRIRQ7oKuQtpQrTIvlskB/qQQ8SLw1P BmgPuKjT5S6MUewbGXXfmkOrlYeG7MiA05q/0fGABsN+Xw7PNvJDwfyP+ELogM0Y 0o+KJx5ipbxewlvhDMHfhh07AiPQfpxgbN6/0rObomZAoddnMO/QpHGhxVePIfeM pH8+qXeBD1dAVkgKGsJaIr3VK+qOg/Md5PvT2Ej0OHarNUK1YhCHx2G02fOoxZYo BOdiyMtF+z/peipfDi+y =kk7L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 09/29/2010 05:17 AM, Michael Dorrington wrote:
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Frederic Muller - SFI wrote:
Hi!
Just finished watching and I find the Steven Fry video much better for an event like SFD http://www.gnu.org/fry/ . It goes on explaining in layman's terms what is Free Software and that's really what we want: getting the word out to educate and encourage people towards their own Software Freedom.
The Stephen Fry video is good but I'm not sure about his real commitment to Free Software. Not long after he made that video he posted an article about how great the iPad was, <http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about/>. And if you follow the link to his page from the GNU site,<http://www.gnu.org/fry/>, you are presented with an advert for his new book via "iPad APP" and "iPhone APP". So not so much Freedom Fry but more like iFry.
Besides I find Richard's intro is a bit like SFD is his event, and very much pushing his own ideas... while I don't mind so much, it would have been nice of him to acknowledge that others also works towards Software Freedom, and that the FSF is not the sole owner of the term.
I think Richard's video is good, although maybe a bit heavy for a newcomer but it needs explaining to them at some point. I agree with Quiliro Ordóñez that I don't think Richard makes out that SFD is his event. And its hard to overstate how much Richard has done for Software Freedom,<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman>. Its a shame that the FSF didn't come up with Software Freedom Day but I am truly thankful to those that did.
I'd like to take this opportunity to send a little hello to any FreeBSD users out there and hope they don't feel "left alone". :)
And the OpenBSD users, NetBSD users, etc. But how strong is FreeBSD's commitment to Software Freedom? The FreeBSD kernel contains non-free software, see the elements discovered by Debian (Ben Hutchings) as part of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD project:
kfreebsd-8: "Includes binary-only and obfuscated C code" <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594940>
Note, there are also non-free elements in the Linux kernel <http://kernel.org/> (which is why there is <http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/> and <http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing>)
Cheers, Mike. Hi!
I agree with all your points, but still find Richard's video 'not very tailor made' to SFD. I'll prevent from quoting him but there is no acknowledgement of the people organizing SFD like you and me. Richard and SFI did in fact touch about the Steven Fry video and yes it is sad that he is now pushing something that is the opposite of what we advocate. In terms of content however Steven's message is a lot more in line with the way we want to communicate and our target audience. For what it's worth, Mark Shuttleworth also did a video this year for SFD in China and the message is about SFD and China. He talked about people celebrating and that's a good thing (I don't have any youtube link, one can see the video here though http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BT-yVysfF1M/ ). I think a lot of team tend to forget SFD is about talking to people who don't know about Free Software, not a celebration by 'already convinced' to an 'already convinced' crowd. Our intent is to fight public ignorance. So we're not pushing GNU/Linux for everyone (try this, we'll tell you later why it's important), nor are we saying proprietary software should disappear. We're trying to explain what is Software Freedom and why it matters. People can make their own conclusion and then ask us what are there options. We're also very flexible on teams' interpretation of what should be done for that day. I hope this put my comment in perspective and that we can open the door to any community who cares about Software Freedom. Fred
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Frederic Muller - SFI wrote: [snip]
Hi!
I agree with all your points, but still find Richard's video 'not very tailor made' to SFD. I'll prevent from quoting him but there is no acknowledgement of the people organizing SFD like you and me.
Fair point.
Richard and SFI did in fact touch about the Steven Fry video and yes it is sad that he is now pushing something that is the opposite of what we advocate. In terms of content however Steven's message is a lot more in line with the way we want to communicate and our target audience.
I got in contact with FSF when it happened but had no response back.
For what it's worth, Mark Shuttleworth also did a video this year for SFD in China and the message is about SFD and China. He talked about people celebrating and that's a good thing (I don't have any youtube link, one can see the video here though http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BT-yVysfF1M/ ).
Is it this? http://tinyogg.com/watch/p7LMP/ It is a good video.
I think a lot of team tend to forget SFD is about talking to people who don't know about Free Software, not a celebration by 'already convinced' to an 'already convinced' crowd. Our intent is to fight public ignorance. So we're not pushing GNU/Linux for everyone (try this, we'll tell you later why it's important), nor are we saying proprietary software should disappear. We're trying to explain what is Software Freedom and why it matters. People can make their own conclusion and then ask us what are there options. We're also very flexible on teams' interpretation of what should be done for that day.
I agree that SFD is about reaching out those who don't know about Free Software. That's what we did in the Manchester event. We had people demonstrating Free Software on Windows and Mac. And we handed out the OpenDisc. As well as demonstrating GNU/Linux and Free Software server applications.
I hope this put my comment in perspective and that we can open the door to any community who cares about Software Freedom.
I hope too that we bring in all those that care about Software Freedom. Mike.
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2010/9/15 Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com>:
Good quality for web viewing (480x270, 28 MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.og...
Lower quality (480x270, 13MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day-lo...
Hi, I uploaded to wiki a legend in portuguese (pt-br). You can see a legend in spanish here: http://universalsubtitles.org/videos/pROW2neuEkhT/ I suggest someone look If It's ok and upload to wiki too. -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana http://www.phls.com.br Tel. (41) 9638-1897 GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 .
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana <phls00@gmail.com>wrote:
2010/9/15 Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com>:
Good quality for web viewing (480x270, 28 MB)
http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.og...
Lower quality (480x270, 13MB)
http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day-lo...
Hi,
I uploaded to wiki a legend in portuguese (pt-br).
You can see a legend in spanish here: http://universalsubtitles.org/videos/pROW2neuEkhT/ I suggest someone look If It's ok and upload to wiki too.
excellent couldn't find any error on the spanish locale, althought I only watched 60% so far.
-- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana http://www.phls.com.br Tel. (41) 9638-1897 GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 .
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What's the link for the video at youtube?... On 9/15/10, Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com> wrote:
This vídeo was recorded by Richard Stallman for Software Freedom day.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Sturmfels Date: 2010/9/14 Subject: Re: Stallman video for SFD To: Quiliro Ordóñez Cc: rms, Jeanne Rasata
[...]
Good quality for web viewing (480x270, 28 MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day.og...
Lower quality (480x270, 13MB) http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/resources/stallman-software-freedom-day-lo...
Ben
-- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu! "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
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2010/9/16 don warner saklad <don.saklad@gmail.com>
What's the link for the video at youtube?...
Richard has asked his video to be only on free formats. I don't think he would like to be in non free format. Why would you like it to be in Youtube? -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
...can't figure out the other format On 9/16/10, Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/9/16 don warner saklad <don.saklad@gmail.com>
What's the link for the video at youtube?...
Richard has asked his video to be only on free formats. I don't think he would like to be in non free format. Why would you like it to be in Youtube?
-- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu! "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
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2010/9/16 don warner saklad <don.saklad@gmail.com>
...can't figure out the other format
I assume you have Microsoft Windows (TM). For that operating system you have guidelines for reproducing Theora formats here: http://www.vorbis.com/setup_windows/ Here are the codecs: http://xiph.org/dshow/ Please tell us if you need more help. We will be glad to colaborate. :-) -- Saludos/Greetings Quiliro Ordóñez 593(2)340 1517 / 593(9)821 8696 Even The Troops Are Waking Up <http://tinyogg.com/watch/My8SB/> ACTA – Un acuerdo que puede garantizar la crucificción de internet<http://quiliro.wordpress.com> GNU should mean "GNU's not Ubuntu!<http://quidam.cc/03-03-2010/gnu-should-mean-gnus-not-ubuntu> "Lo único que se necesita para que triunfe el mal es que los hombres de bien no hagan nada." Sergei Bondarchuk Estas son opiniones personales y no representan la posición de organización alguna.
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