Hello Phil ! I'm happy to meet you here. I know you're one of the original OpenCD developers, and if you're looking for a real child project, which follows TheOpenCD's spirit, look and feel, then Qumble is for you. I have copied everything: source code, software selection decision process, website, *everything*. But updated and brang fresh wind quite a lot in many places. Just rebranded as "Qumble", but I have retained original contributors such as you and Henrik. I believe that original TheOpenCD is the best so far, because it targeted quality, rather than quantity and put much more effort into chosen projects. Unfortunately both TheOpenCD, and it's child, TheOpenDisc are dead projects. I have a test version of Qumble available: http://qumble.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2 Give it a try! Best wishes, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"