Hello Fred,

Your explanation is well understood.
Thanks

OJ
sent from google nexus

On Aug 16, 2012 6:54 AM, "Frederic Muller - DFI" <fred@softwarefreedomday.org> wrote:
Hi!

Sorry for the late response, was finishing a lot of things including the
OpenDisc SFD Edition 2012 and cleaning up the wiki as it seems too
complicated for some people to follow the simple requirements of having
their team/event page under their country and city (not to mention
clicking on a map somewhere around the location where the event is most
likely going to happen). /rant

The code for both countdown are available (one in the wiki and one in
the webpage). They actually work differently as the website countdown
(top banner) uses your computer clock to do the calculation while the
SFD banner countdown uses the US server plus or minus an offset decided
by the person who is hosting that banner. So in our case (SFD website)
we are using the SFD server timezone which is UTC -4, though aware of
the issue we are trying not to display both on the same page.

So now depending on where and from where you're looking there can
obviously be a difference between the two.

I hope I have explained it well (besides we might as well use a
different time for counting the final day: from midnight for one and 3am
for the other one - I would have to double check again).

Fred

On 08/13/2012 01:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> Just looking at the SFD site, i noticed the countdown are different. While
>> that on top is reading 33days , the other(which is used by the community) s
>> reading 34days.
>>
>> http://softwarefreedomday.org/en/blog/194-100-teams-registered-
>
> I see that too. At Sun Aug 12 19:01:29 CEST 2012       =GMT +02:00
>
> I first wondered if timezone only honoured by 1 of 2 counts ? Considering:
>       Where browser is                (me: +02:00 = Germany)
>       Where browser's possible proxies are    (+02:00 = Germany)
>       Where SFD servers are           USA it seems ******
> & if browser (or proxy ?) emit vars that might affect SFD page content,
> eg from my server
>       http://www.berklix.net/cgi-bin/printenv
> I see
>       TZ="Europe/Berlin"
>
> However now, USA Sunday afternoon = Germany Sunday evening so timezones
> don't explain it. Presumably there's an "off by one" programming error ?
>
> ******
> I guess SFD servers are in USA (but that might not be TZ in kernel)
> nslookup
>       softwarefreedomday.org
>       70.87.222.73
>
> traceroute 70.87.222.73
>>From DSL:
>   7  ae-47-47.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.142)  133.974 ms
>      ae-48-48.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.146)  129.588 ms
>      ae-46-46.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.138)  126.567 ms
>   8  ae-41-41.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.50)  110.777 ms
>      ae-43-43.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.58)  127.463 ms
>      ae-41-41.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.50)  112.367 ms
>   9  ae-92-92.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.158)  110.183 ms
>      ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.154)  117.123 ms
>      ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.146)  110.603 ms
> 10  ae-1-60.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net (4.69.149.18)  112.987 ms
>      ae-4-90.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net (4.69.149.210)  111.647 mstraceroute: sendto: Permission denied
>
>>From berklix.net servers:
>   9  ae7.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com (173.192.18.208)  137.062 ms  134.128 ms  133.489 ms
> 10  po31.dsr02.dllstx3.networklayer.com (173.192.18.227)  136.899 ms
>      po31.dsr01.dllstx3.networklayer.com (173.192.18.225)  137.444 ms  137.451 ms
> 11  te1-3.dsr02.dllstx2.networklayer.com (70.87.253.122)  138.414 ms
>      te3-3.dsr01.dllstx2.networklayer.com (70.87.255.114)  133.895 ms
>      te3-1.dsr02.dllstx2.networklayer.com (70.87.255.130)  134.394 ms
> 12  po2.car01.dllstx2.networklayer.com (70.87.254.78)  135.647 ms  135.668 ms  196.911 ms
> 13  router1-dal.linode.com (67.18.7.90)  133.804 ms  136.847 ms  133.656 ms
> 14  * * *
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
>


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