Hello.

2012/9/6 Frederic Muller - DFI <fred@softwarefreedomday.org>


On 09/06/2012 10:29 PM, María Leandro wrote:
>             (A related issue is that it's all too common for the teams to
>             write their own Wiki pages in English, even if there're only a
>             few fluent English-speakers, if any, among the intended
>             audience.  Indeed, I've heard one of them say, “aren't these
>             wiki pages for DFI only, anyway?”)
>
>
> It will be a challenge to organize all languages, probably if we could
> add them differently. I'm not against to have a wiki per each language,
> however, I'm worried that we will end up with 100 new wiki pages and
> nobody to maintain them (as I said... I'm 100% pro-multilingual) but I'm
> also aware that not everyone wil know how to look for it even if this
> seems really obvious for us.
>
>
>
>             To note is that it was already suggested [1] on the planning-ru@
>             mailing list to establish an entirely separate site for the
>             Russian-speaking SFD community.  Indeed, at this moment we
>             cannot even refer to http://sf-day.org/ as the primary source of
>             information regarding the event, as most of its contents is only
>             available in English!  And as for Russia, it's rather uncommon
>             for a person here to know English well, if at all.
>
>
> If there is a strategy to translate or the admin can add a
> translation-plugin I would be happy to make a spanish translation,
> however, even if there are a lot of us who can do the work, we still
> need the admin of the website to provide us the tool.

The wiki has already a few sections translated. Templates in specific
languages (and text boxes - check the bottom of
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2012/ ) have been created for teams
who want to use them. moinmoin is language aware on all its key pages.
Do check the wiki frontpage : en Español - em Português - en français -
हिंदी में - తెలుగు - 繁體中文 - 한국어 . That's 7 languages
StartGuide: en Español - en français . That 2 languages.

Wiki has no issue at all. 

I really don't think technology is at stake here. It's more a matter of
someone (well more than one someone obviously) putting in the efforts. A
wiki is difficult to translate as content changes often. Still all the
team pages for Spanish & Portuguese speaking countries are in Spanish
(most of), I'd say the same for Turkish pages even if they do not have
any template made yet (just saying to the Russian crowd.. "hey just do
it! Others have been doing it for a few years now" ;-) ).

If there is already a on-work progress on Spanish I would be happy to push it and finish it. However, I need to know what do you have, where do you have it and how do you want me to send you the translations. For non-English speakers it's important not to only have the wiki translated, but also the main web... this is the front end for everything and should be a priority over the rest. 

For www is more complicated at the moment, but it slightly easier to
manage. Again the site is available in some other languages.

To summarize there is no technical issues, it works. It's just a matter
of continuing what has been started and extending it to other section.
Obviously we're no wikipedia and it will take longer, but Spanish
translations didn't happen overnight neither. I don't mind to
systematically create a sister page when I see foreign content added, I
just always feel that for 1 paragraph it's sometimes overkill (my bad).

I consider that translating everything would be a pain too, wiki must be a matter of each country/language. However, main website has almost always the same content and it's important for those who don't even know what the event is to have a friendly front-page multilingual support.

If we try to make it all, we won't accomplish anything, however, there are some few spots that can make a difference.

Just a couple of thoughts. 
 

Fred


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