Frederic Muller - DFF <fred@digitalfreedomfoundation.org> writes:
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Thanks for the feedback as it is definitely needed. The wiki is running Moinmoin which is free software and not written by us. Our mastery of the said software can be poor in some areas but I will try to address the issues I know of:
- translations are provided by the community and while "they" know that SFD 2013 has been launched they might not have had the time to update its content.
Curiously, are there any “submission guidelines” published for those volunteering to update (or write) these pages?
The updated pages have been done by us and we can only wait. I am not aware of anyway to place those non-updated pages in a temporary status giving access only to people willing to update them.
As per my experience with MediaWiki and Ikiwiki, a wiki page containing a redirect will still be available for edits, even if it may require some trick to access it. Provided that MoinMoin behaves the same (and I guess it should), the way to go would be to place explicit redirects to FrontPage on all the pages yet to be updated. Whenever the community feels that the page is ready, the redirect is removed, and the page is served normally from then on. (Until some time after the event, when the redirects are reinstated.)
For the pages using only default Moinmoin templates there might be a way to avoid those from appearing.
Isn't it possible to just remove all the “template” front pages? Alternatively, adding redirects to FrontPage to /all/ the MoinMoin front page templates may solve the issue. Of those I've mentioned, this issue is probably the most important, as for now, one trying to access the wiki with a specifically (and, arguably: properly) configured browser may land on the template, with no obvious way to go further.
Not sure what you're saying about sf-day.org. For me it redirected to the www site which shows in the browser default language or English. Some languages have been added as some parts have been translated, but not all. And if it's not translated then it appears in English.
Indeed, it behaves reasonably in this respect. My question is, however: how does the community suggests the translations? I still hope that a much larger portion of the site could be translated into a variety of languages.
For wiki templates it's just a matter of creating them. I usually update them every year. There can be a few differences between countries as some require provinces and some don't. But again there is no limitation on the wiki and we do monitor its changes.
So, anyone's free to create such templates? (I guess I should now refer to the MoinMoin documentation to understand how.) (Frankly, I don't think that it's all that necessary to include the provinces, or even the countries, into the hierarchy, — much the same as for the continents, — but it's a different matter.)
Again Mailman is obviously not maintained by us. If there is any specific requests (we have native speakers with admin rights for all non-English lists) and improvements we can do we definitely should. I can see that the Spanish list page is in Spanish, it's not the case for the Russian nor the Portuguese list.
As it seems, while only parts of the planning-pt's page are translated, the planning-ru's one appears to be translated in full. However, I was talking about the Mailman's listinfo page (http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo) specifically, and the mailing lists' descriptions in particular: Planning-es Discussions about planning for SFD (spanish) Planning-pt Discussions about planning for SFD (Portuguese) Planning-ru Discussions about planning for SFD (Russian) My suggestion would be to have these description written in the respective languages, as in, e. g.: Planning-ru [Russian] Обсуждения подготовки Дня на русском языке
I unfortunately do not speak those languages but can take a look into it.
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