[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {lleft, right}-tab
Jorge wrote:
Jeremy Henty wrote:
Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl=en ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} It looks OK to me. Comments? -- Cheers Jorge.-
I don't have a problem with the patch, but I do question the reasoning. Dillo is a web browser, so most users will logically expect it to behave like other web browsers they have used. Following Chrome, for instance, is quite logical since it's a well-known browser many users are probably familiar with. On the other hand, most users *don't* expect Dillo to behave like a terminal emulator, which is a different kind of program entirely. It's the same thing as with the input box keys. At best it's mildly confusing, and if it conflicts with the expected behavior, it can cause a great deal of frustration. Frustration hurts usability and drives away potential users. So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc. Just my two cents, ~Benjamin
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:35:43AM -0400, Benjamin Johnson wrote: Jorge wrote:
Jeremy Henty wrote:
Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl=en ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} It looks OK to me. Comments? -- Cheers Jorge.-
I don't have a problem with the patch, but I do question the reasoning. Dillo is a web browser, so most users will logically expect it to behave like other web browsers they have used. Following Chrome, for instance, is quite logical since it's a well-known browser many users are probably familiar with.
On the other hand, most users *don't* expect Dillo to behave like a terminal emulator, which is a different kind of program entirely. It's the same thing as with the input box keys. At best it's mildly confusing, and if it conflicts with the expected behavior, it can cause a great deal of frustration. Frustration hurts usability and drives away potential users.
So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc.
This last paragraph I find humorous. Although I haven't got the slightest clue as to what these keys do in a normal browser -- as simple as it even sounds, but I get two to five times more tasks completed in a shell rather then using a GUI browser. Funny. The shell must have done something right compared to GUI -- like keep our hands on the keyboard like the good typing teacher taught!!! -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
Benjamin Johnson wrote:
Jorge wrote:
Jeremy Henty wrote:
Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl=en ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} It looks OK to me. Comments? -- Cheers Jorge.-
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So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc.
Personally, when I submitted the patch my only motivation was to be compatible with other browsers. I hadn't thought at all about terminal emulators (or any other tabbed desktop applications). Regards, Jeremy Henty
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 07:54:41PM +0000, Jeremy Henty wrote:
Benjamin Johnson wrote:
Jorge wrote:
Jeremy Henty wrote:
> Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: > http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl=en ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} It looks OK to me. Comments? -- Cheers Jorge.-
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So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc.
Personally, when I submitted the patch my only motivation was to be compatible with other browsers. I hadn't thought at all about terminal emulators (or any other tabbed desktop applications).
My point was: * the URL shows Chrome already decided to include the binding. * Most bindings in new apps. have roots in older apps. (brain wiring is hard to change). -- Cheers Jorge.-
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