Hi, I'm Florent BERANGER, from Flonix company (http://www.flonix.com). We like Dillo because it's small and fast :) I've just tested the 0.8.3rc1, the rendering is really better :) Here 2 remaining bugs I've found : - some hardcoded accented characters (for exemple use "é" in the place of "é" in HTML code) aren't properly displayed. - the pages background must be white by default (actually grey). We currently working to port the "crystal" icon set to Dillo. Since done, you'll can add it in icons page :) We are very interested by Tabs support feature. I saw some patchs for this feature. How can we compile Dillo 0.8.3 with them ? Thanks for your good works, Best regards, Florent http://www.flonix.com ************************ ADSL ILLIMITE TISCALI + TELEPHONE GRATUIT ************************ Surfez 40 fois plus vite pour 30EUR/mois seulement ! Et téléphonez partout en France gratuitement, vers les postes fixes (hors numéros spéciaux). Tarifs très avantageux vers les mobiles et l'international ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl (voir conditions sur le site)
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 19:33:32 +0200, "Florent BERANGER" <cosmic.flo@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
Here 2 remaining bugs I've found : - some hardcoded accented characters (for exemple use "é" in the place of "é" in HTML code) aren't properly displayed.
i think that its the dev team stand point to not support bad html, as this breaks even more the standard and makes the browsers bigger without reason... but i'm just one user, the dev team will say something for sure but i write because you can workaround that... install the privoxy filtering proxy and configure it to swap those bad characters with the correct html codes... that is, use privoxy to fix bad html pages, it works well, unless the connection is encripted
We are very interested by Tabs support feature. I saw some patchs for this feature. How can we compile Dillo 0.8.3 with them ?
the tab patch was too big and needed lot of work to break it in small pieces so it could get into dillo... the patch creator stopped updating its patch so now the patchs fails in alot of places when trying to use it in 0.8.3 there is someone that is trying to update it, but like i said, the patchs is really big cya higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
higuita wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 19:33:32 +0200, "Florent BERANGER" <cosmic.flo@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
Here 2 remaining bugs I've found : - some hardcoded accented characters (for exemple use "é" in the place of "é" in HTML code) aren't properly displayed.
i think that its the dev team stand point to not support bad html, as this breaks even more the standard and makes the browsers bigger without reason...
What's bad about that code? HTML 4 is, in the absence of headers or meta tags indicating otherwise, assumed to be ISO-8859-1. The é is perfectly legal there. Given that they show up correctly when I look at that site here, I suspect it's a font problem on the display, not an HTML or Dillo problem. As for the default background: that's up to the browser, not the spec. A basic web design rule going back to 1996 is: never assume what the default colors are going to be -- if you want something specific, set it in your code. Unfortunately, Dillo doesn't support CSS yet, which means you have to resort to setting these in the <body> tag. -- Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 04:28:07PM -0700, Kelson Vibber wrote:
higuita wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 19:33:32 +0200, "Florent BERANGER" <cosmic.flo@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
Here 2 remaining bugs I've found : - some hardcoded accented characters (for exemple use "é" in the place of "é" in HTML code) aren't properly displayed.
i think that its the dev team stand point to not support bad html, as this breaks even more the standard and makes the browsers bigger without reason...
What's bad about that code? HTML 4 is, in the absence of headers or meta tags indicating otherwise, assumed to be ISO-8859-1. The é is perfectly legal there.
If you give Dillo an ISO-8859-1 'é', it will work fine. Now, if you give it in some other encoding, it will fail.
Given that they show up correctly when I look at that site here, I suspect it's a font problem on the display, not an HTML or Dillo problem.
Yes, it could be. BTW, if the source page has an ISO-8859-1 'é' this is surely the problem.
As for the default background: that's up to the browser, not the spec. A basic web design rule going back to 1996 is: never assume what the default colors are going to be -- if you want something specific, set it in your code. Unfortunately, Dillo doesn't support CSS yet, which means you have to resort to setting these in the <body> tag.
The background color can be defined in dillorc (either the global one, or on a per user basis). HTH. -- Cheers Jorge.-
What's bad about that code? HTML 4 is, in the absence of headers or meta tags indicating otherwise, assumed to be ISO-8859-1. The é is perfectly legal there.
If you give Dillo an ISO-8859-1 'é', it will work fine.
Now, if you give it in some other encoding, it will fail.
Given that they show up correctly when I look at that site here, I suspect it's a font problem on the display, not an HTML or Dillo problem.
Yes, it could be. BTW, if the source page has an ISO-8859-1 'é' this is surely the problem.
Sorry, I should have said: "if the source page has a NON ISO-8859-1 'é', this is surely the problem" -- Cheers Jorge.-
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:33:32PM +0200, Florent BERANGER wrote:
Hi,
Hi.
I'm Florent BERANGER, from Flonix company (http://www.flonix.com).
We like Dillo because it's small and fast :) I've just tested the 0.8.3rc1, the rendering is really better :)
Good you like it. ;)
Here 2 remaining bugs I've found : - some hardcoded accented characters (for exemple use "é" in the place of "é" in HTML code) aren't properly displayed. - the pages background must be white by default (actually grey).
(Answered in a previous email)
We currently working to port the "crystal" icon set to Dillo. Since done, you'll can add it in icons page :)
OK.
We are very interested by Tabs support feature. I saw some patchs for this feature. How can we compile Dillo 0.8.3 with them ?
A good way to get TABS is to have a window manager that does it. I'm using fluxbox since a long time and TABS work great here for me. Even better than with native support because fluxbox allows me to set the tab labels on the information bar at the top of the window, allowing me to maximize the viewable space. Notwithstanding that I believe the WM to be the right place to implement TABS, maybe in the future we'll have to add some native support for them. Unless the most popular WMs or freedesktop project promote them as a standard, users will lack of TABS in Dillo and asking them to change the WM is too much. Now, once again, with limited manpower all these tasks become a procrastinated forever in the priority list. :(
Thanks for your good works,
Did you plan at some point to include Dillo in Flonix? -- Cheers Jorge.-
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Kelson Vibber