Hi there, This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dall... :-) -- Cheers Jorge.-
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: Hi there,
This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dall...
Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong! "First things first: Unless you visit only very simple websites, Dillo will probably not be your one and only Web browser" Dillo seems to work just fine and dandy with the Amazon.com website and it's search function. And it is my best buddy when searching for products on Amazon.com as it's super fast... for some odd reason. ;-) Just wish Google News wouldn't list all those (not-needed) languages at the top of it's page. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
Roger wrote:
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: Hi there,
This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dall...
Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong!
I've never seen one of these articles without a number of...issues, which I suppose is unavoidable when you've just started playing with it a little bit. - He talks about --enable-cookies instead of cookiesrc. - It sounds like his distribution has fullwindow_start set, which strikes me as the wrong thing by default. - He's using an old version if it uses Ctrl-Q and Alt-Q and doesn't have panel size in the menu. - It's surprising to mention style.css instead of dillorc.
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:20:35PM +0000, corvid wrote: Roger wrote:
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: Hi there,
This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dall...
Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong!
I've never seen one of these articles without a number of...issues, which I suppose is unavoidable when you've just started playing with it a little bit.
- He talks about --enable-cookies instead of cookiesrc. - It sounds like his distribution has fullwindow_start set, which strikes me as the wrong thing by default. - He's using an old version if it uses Ctrl-Q and Alt-Q and doesn't have panel size in the menu. - It's surprising to mention style.css instead of dillorc.
I was just joking, but stating how I love that I can actually use a minimal browser with such a useful site such as Amazon.com's search feature. However, on my second post to this thread, I did notice too the style.css mention was likely mistaken for the dillorc file. (I do this all the time myself when learning new features/functions. :-/ ) As to what to put in a default style.css file? I'm having problems with just "converting XML to HTML" and "other formats to MOBI (E-Book XML markup)" As such, I admit I know just enough to interpret and use css style sheets. If the style.css file is for styling fonts (aka theme), I'm terrible at styling and feel that one terminal font is just fine and dandy as long as I can read it. The site requires a user:pass account, so can't immediately post a comment suggesting the author really meant dillorc. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: Hi there,
This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dall...
:-)
Just read the full article and noticed this on about the second to last paragraph: "But if you insist, open the plain text file called "style.css" in the .dillo folder. This file uses standard cascading style sheet definitions." I'm not seeing this file within my install or within my $HOME/.dillo folder. Further searching the dillo-3.0.1 tarball shows no template style.css files. Grepping the tarball shows me there's mention within the dillo manual page only along with a few relevant code statements within the tarball, but I can't see enough to verify this file is created on $HOME/.dillo folder creation. 1) How did he get a style.css file created automagically when I don't get one automagically created? (Is he more special then me?) Grepping the code only shows a few statements for this file, which leads me to believe his distribution rolled-up a style.css file? 2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with? -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
Roger wrote:
2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with?
What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? All I have in mine is...let's see... ":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}" Colors, maybe...
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:18PM +0000, corvid wrote: Roger wrote:
2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with?
What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? All I have in mine is...let's see... ":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}"
Colors, maybe...
Just my thoughts on this, I don't customize the layouts much from the default as page formating gets screwed-up when viewing heavily formated websites. ie. CNN, FoxNews, ... In the past, I tried formating pages to use light fonts on a dark background, but as stated above, I would always encounter problems with other websites page colors. Since trying this 5+ years ago, just gave up and decided viewing the page as it was intended. Also conflicts if the user tries to print the page too. As such, we can see why styles.css obviously doesn't get much attention due to the above issues. And for resolving screen brightness when I have a headache, I just use a CLI browser called ELinks. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
Roger (2011-10-06 19:59):
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:18PM +0000, corvid wrote: Roger wrote:
2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with?
What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? All I have in mine is...let's see... ":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}"
Colors, maybe...
Just my thoughts on this, I don't customize the layouts much from the default as page formating gets screwed-up when viewing heavily formated websites. ie. CNN, FoxNews, ...
In the past, I tried formating pages to use light fonts on a dark background, but as stated above, I would always encounter problems with other websites page colors. Since trying this 5+ years ago, just gave up and decided viewing the page as it was intended. Also conflicts if the user tries to print the page too.
As such, we can see why styles.css obviously doesn't get much attention due to the above issues. And for resolving screen brightness when I have a headache, I just use a CLI browser called ELinks.
When browsing at night, I sometimes use the following snippet with Firefox. Works with dillo too. Colors could use some tweaking. * { font-family: 'M+ 1p' !important; background:#1E2426 !important; color:#C7C7C7 !important; border-color:#6B8299 !important; border-width:0.1em !important; } a { color:#C17B6C !important; } hr, h1, h2, h3, h4 { margin-bottom:0.2em !important; } th, td { padding:0.1em !important; } a { text-decoration:underline !important; border:none !important; } a:hover { text-decoration:none !important; } input, select, button, textarea { color:#548A1E !important; } -- -- Rogut?s Sparnuotos
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 11:05:03AM +0300, Rogut?s Sparnuotos wrote: Roger (2011-10-06 19:59):
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:18PM +0000, corvid wrote: Roger wrote:
2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with?
What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? All I have in mine is...let's see... ":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}"
Colors, maybe...
Just my thoughts on this, I don't customize the layouts much from the default as page formating gets screwed-up when viewing heavily formated websites. ie. CNN, FoxNews, ...
In the past, I tried formating pages to use light fonts on a dark background, but as stated above, I would always encounter problems with other websites page colors. Since trying this 5+ years ago, just gave up and decided viewing the page as it was intended. Also conflicts if the user tries to print the page too.
As such, we can see why styles.css obviously doesn't get much attention due to the above issues. And for resolving screen brightness when I have a headache, I just use a CLI browser called ELinks.
When browsing at night, I sometimes use the following snippet with Firefox. Works with dillo too. Colors could use some tweaking.
* { font-family: 'M+ 1p' !important; background:#1E2426 !important; color:#C7C7C7 !important; border-color:#6B8299 !important; border-width:0.1em !important; } a { color:#C17B6C !important; } hr, h1, h2, h3, h4 { margin-bottom:0.2em !important; } th, td { padding:0.1em !important; } a { text-decoration:underline !important; border:none !important; } a:hover { text-decoration:none !important; } input, select, button, textarea { color:#548A1E !important; }
-- -- Rogut?s Sparnuotos
Tested here and it looks pretty good to put a commented section like this within the style.css file. The snippet above could use some comments within each statement though, so a user can modify the background and font colors at first glance here though. (In other words, I've seen some really nice commented xml/css stylesheets from News sites which I could easily read. ;-) -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 11:05:03AM +0300, Rogut??s Sparnuotos wrote:
Roger (2011-10-06 19:59):
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:18PM +0000, corvid wrote: Roger wrote:
2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with?
This is an interesting idea... Funny how the article was able to make us (in dillo-dev) put some atention in style.css again. I just discovered that the file is re-read each time. There's no need to load another dillo to test changes to it. Just reload the page you're viewing. If the tools menu holds a "My CSS" menu entry, holding a list of custom style sheets (.css files in ~/.dillo/), and allowing to apply it on-the-fly (similar to "Panel Size"), it would be quite handy. We may include some pre-made ones, as the dark background Rogut suggested (readability), larger font, etc.
[...] When browsing at night, I sometimes use the following snippet with Firefox. Works with dillo too. Colors could use some tweaking.
* { font-family: 'M+ 1p' !important; background:#1E2426 !important; color:#C7C7C7 !important; border-color:#6B8299 !important; border-width:0.1em !important; } a { color:#C17B6C !important; } hr, h1, h2, h3, h4 { margin-bottom:0.2em !important; } th, td { padding:0.1em !important; } a { text-decoration:underline !important; border:none !important; } a:hover { text-decoration:none !important; } input, select, button, textarea { color:#548A1E !important; }
Just appended this line: :visited {color: #008080 !important} to it. -- Cheers Jorge.-
If the tools menu holds a "My CSS" menu entry, holding a list of custom style sheets (.css files in ~/.dillo/), and allowing to apply it on-the-fly (similar to "Panel Size"), it would be quite handy.
The only real use I see with different styles are those whom work at night, or are just light sensitive (AKA old age) like me. (Aside from those that want pretty colors.)
We may include some pre-made ones, as the dark background Rogut suggested (readability), larger font, etc.
<shrugs> I'm still using the suggested dark style css posted to this thread. Haven't had any issues with it yet, else I would have switched back to default. One issue I recall now, there is a flash of total white background on page reload. If any page flashing, should use the default background color within the style css settings.
[...] When browsing at night, I sometimes use the following snippet with Firefox. Works with dillo too. Colors could use some tweaking.
* { font-family: 'M+ 1p' !important; background:#1E2426 !important; color:#C7C7C7 !important; border-color:#6B8299 !important; border-width:0.1em !important; } a { color:#C17B6C !important; } hr, h1, h2, h3, h4 { margin-bottom:0.2em !important; } th, td { padding:0.1em !important; } a { text-decoration:underline !important; border:none !important; } a:hover { text-decoration:none !important; } input, select, button, textarea { color:#548A1E !important; }
Just appended this line:
:visited {color: #008080 !important}
to it.
Yea, the links can be tricky when changing colors. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/
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