[Dillo-dev]very simple question, and many kudos!
first off, i would like to say that i am completely impressed with dillo's efficiency. i finally found myself to be in the position where i needed to get X11 onto my Toshiba Tecra notebook so that i could use a web browser. it's a 166Mhz with 32M ram, so i asked around what would be the best browser for such a low resource machine, and was told firefox by a few. so i got a copy of firefox. it was so slow, not only was it unusable, it made the rest of my computer unusable. then someone mentioned dillo. so i got it. i have to say, i can't even put my surprise of how fast it was into words. i was floored. this is EXACTLY what i needed. so far, it's perfect for me. the only thing that i have a question about is PgUp and PgDn only moving half a page at a time. is there a way to get them to move a full page? thanks, and keep up the excellent work!! -brian -- "Performing a Google search on the fairly unique name you've chosen weeks ago for a piece of software you're writing, only to discover that the sole occurance of that name is as a pen-name for someone who spends his spare time writing X-rated PowerPuff Girls fan fiction is pretty-much a buzzkill." -- Jonathan Patschke --
Hi i have some trouble with dillo that i want to fix. We have (at work) installed dillo on a coffenet application as the web browser by default to users to check their email under imap. So i need to change it te start page that it takes by default as www.dillo.org. I had checked /etc/dillorc but it seems not to be there. May u help us to solve that?? Thankig u in advance Tech. Turcios Manuel Pita __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6 MB, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.es
Hi Turcios, Turcios Manuel Pita writes:
Hi i have some trouble with dillo that i want to fix. We have (at work) installed dillo on a coffenet application as the web browser by default to users to check their email under imap. So i need to change it te start page that it takes by default as www.dillo.org. I had checked /etc/dillorc but it seems not to be there. May u help us to solve that??
I don't quite understand what you mean you "checked and it was not there". Do you mean the file or the "home" option? Anyways, you can copy the one that came with your tarball (or the one from http://www.dillo.org/dillorc) to /etc/dillorc, and see if that works. If it doesn't it probably means that dillo was configured (at compile time) to have a sysconfdir different than /etc (you can maybe try /usr/local/etc). Worst case, you have to tell all your users to copy the dillorc to $HOME/.dillo/dillorc BTW: I haven't found "dillorc" documented anywhere on the dillo sites or source documentation... but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. hope this helps, -- Livio B. Soares
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Turcios Manuel Pita wrote:
Hi i have some trouble with dillo that i want to fix. We have (at work) installed dillo on a coffenet application as the web browser by default to users to check their email under imap.
Quite interesting.
So i need to change it te start page that it takes by default as www.dillo.org. I had checked /etc/dillorc but it seems not to be there. May u help us to solve that??
There're two different things here: 1.- The start page (the one we call "splash" screen). 2.- The home page (accesable with the "Home" Icon). The home page is easily changed from dillorc. The splash page (the one that says "Welcome to to Dillo 0.8.1") can't be changed from dillorc yet. To me, it looks as though you want to change the splash page. If so, please write us back (it doesn't look as a bad idea adding the option to dillorc). In the meanwhile, you can override the splash page by passing dillo an URL from the command line: dillo http://myplace.org/ If you want this done automatically, make a shell script that aliases dillo. Cheers Jorge.-
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Brian Hechinger wrote:
first off, i would like to say that i am completely impressed with dillo's efficiency. i finally found myself to be in the position where i needed to get X11 onto my Toshiba Tecra notebook so that i could use a web browser. it's a 166Mhz with 32M ram, so i asked around what would be the best browser for such a low resource machine, and was told firefox by a few. so i got a copy of firefox. it was so slow, not only was it unusable, it made the rest of my computer unusable. then someone mentioned dillo.
so i got it. i have to say, i can't even put my surprise of how fast it was into words. i was floored. this is EXACTLY what i needed.
Thanks for the good feedback! This information is important for us.
so far, it's perfect for me. the only thing that i have a question about is PgUp and PgDn only moving half a page at a time. is there a way to get them to move a full page?
Some time ago there was a patch, that i'd gladly apply, for that. Maybe Sebastian has it. I'm not sure. Sebastian?
thanks, and keep up the excellent work!!
We try. Cheers Jorge.-
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 11:43:35AM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
so i got it. i have to say, i can't even put my surprise of how fast it was into words. i was floored. this is EXACTLY what i needed.
Thanks for the good feedback! This information is important for us.
hey, it's no problem, you guys certainly deserve it! i've been getting tired over the years of web browsers that have gotten so bloated that they have become completely unusable on slower older computers. i mean, come on, mozilla is _slow_ on my dual 200Mhz Octane with 1.5G ram, and that thing is a far cry from being a slow computer.
so far, it's perfect for me. the only thing that i have a question about is PgUp and PgDn only moving half a page at a time. is there a way to get them to move a full page?
Some time ago there was a patch, that i'd gladly apply, for that. Maybe Sebastian has it. I'm not sure. Sebastian?
if you could come up with that, that would be awesome. thanks!!
thanks, and keep up the excellent work!! We try.
well keep trying!! i need frames!! ;) -brian -- "Performing a Google search on the fairly unique name you've chosen weeks ago for a piece of software you're writing, only to discover that the sole occurance of that name is as a pen-name for someone who spends his spare time writing X-rated PowerPuff Girls fan fiction is pretty-much a buzzkill." -- Jonathan Patschke --
On Sun, May 30, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Brian Hechinger wrote:
so far, it's perfect for me. the only thing that i have a question about is PgUp and PgDn only moving half a page at a time. is there a way to get them to move a full page?
Some time ago there was a patch, that i'd gladly apply, for that. Maybe Sebastian has it. I'm not sure. Sebastian?
Scrolling half a page is actually standard behaviour of Gtk, look e.g. at gtk_layout_size_allocate() (in gtklayout.c), which is more or less responsible for this in our case, since our code uses GdkAdjustment::page_increment, which is set there. The attached patch "solves" it, but I'm not sure, wether the standard behaviour should be overridden. Sebastian PS: I'm currently working on huge changes in Dw, so committing patches to Dw shold currently avoided when possible.
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote:
On Sun, May 30, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Brian Hechinger wrote:
so far, it's perfect for me. the only thing that i have a question about is PgUp and PgDn only moving half a page at a time. is there a way to get them to move a full page?
Some time ago there was a patch, that i'd gladly apply, for that. Maybe Sebastian has it. I'm not sure. Sebastian?
Scrolling half a page is actually standard behaviour of Gtk, look e.g. at gtk_layout_size_allocate() (in gtklayout.c), which is more or less responsible for this in our case, since our code uses GdkAdjustment::page_increment, which is set there.
The attached patch "solves" it, but I'm not sure, wether the standard behaviour should be overridden.
Hmmmm well, from time to time I find the current behaviour less useful than a full page scroll. I don't know the rationale for a half page scroll in gtklayout either, but it looks as though a full page scroll would be a good default.
[later you wrote]
It will probably still take some time, it is a bit more difficult than I thought.
Should I wait a bit for a new version?
PS: I'm currently working on huge changes in Dw, so committing patches to Dw shold currently avoided when possible.
No problem! I want to make a dillo-0.8.2 release real soon. The main reason is that the previous releasse announcement caught freshmeat in the middle of a HW upgrade. When finally they brought back the site, the pending announcements went almost unnoticed (roughly 30 times less visibility!). Cheers Jorge.-
On Tue, Jun 01, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote:
Scrolling half a page is actually standard behaviour of Gtk, look e.g. at gtk_layout_size_allocate() (in gtklayout.c), which is more or less responsible for this in our case, since our code uses GdkAdjustment::page_increment, which is set there.
The attached patch "solves" it, but I'm not sure, wether the standard behaviour should be overridden.
Hmmmm well, from time to time I find the current behaviour less useful than a full page scroll. I don't know the rationale for a half page scroll in gtklayout either, but it looks as though a full page scroll would be a good default.
This is somehow adopted by other widgets as well, I'm not sure what other X programs do. Anyway, I don't care much about, apply it, if you want the behaviour changed.
It will probably still take some time, it is a bit more difficult than I thought.
Should I wait a bit for a new version?
Don't wait on me. I'm currently not able to tell when I'm finished.
PS: I'm currently working on huge changes in Dw, so committing patches to Dw shold currently avoided when possible.
In some cases, smaller patches may be applied; if merging fails, I'll have to adjust it by hand. Anyway, I'd like to be explicitly told about the changes, so I can better react on it. Sebastian
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote:
On Tue, Jun 01, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote:
Scrolling half a page is actually standard behaviour of Gtk, look e.g. at gtk_layout_size_allocate() (in gtklayout.c), which is more or less responsible for this in our case, since our code uses GdkAdjustment::page_increment, which is set there.
The attached patch "solves" it, but I'm not sure, wether the standard behaviour should be overridden.
Hmmmm well, from time to time I find the current behaviour less useful than a full page scroll. I don't know the rationale for a half page scroll in gtklayout either, but it looks as though a full page scroll would be a good default.
This is somehow adopted by other widgets as well, I'm not sure what other X programs do. Anyway, I don't care much about, apply it, if you want the behaviour changed.
Ok, done. I just used: 0.96 * allocation->height to allow for an overlapping of roughly one line. Comments welcome.
It will probably still take some time, it is a bit more difficult than I thought.
Should I wait a bit for a new version?
Don't wait on me. I'm currently not able to tell when I'm finished.
PS: I'm currently working on huge changes in Dw, so committing patches to Dw shold currently avoided when possible.
In some cases, smaller patches may be applied; if merging fails, I'll have to adjust it by hand. Anyway, I'd like to be explicitly told about the changes, so I can better react on it.
With regard to the new widget for buttons, and the inminence of 0.8.2 release, if you like it could be the last enhancement before the release (I'd also add the context-menu indicator to the bug-meter pixmaps). Cheers Jorge.-
On Wed, Jun 02, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
With regard to the new widget for buttons, and the inminence of 0.8.2 release, if you like it could be the last enhancement before the release (I'd also add the context-menu indicator to the bug-meter pixmaps).
Yes, I think it should be finished within a few days (Sunday or so). Sebastian
participants (5)
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Brian Hechinger
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Jorge Arellano Cid
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Livio Baldini Soares
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Sebastian Geerken
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Turcios Manuel Pita