Wonderful, fast program! Especially dig the fullscreen mode and keyboard shortcuts. HTML layout rendering of pages like Google and Amazon and eBay and Slashdot looks great! Unfortunately the fonts don't... Dillo 0.8.3 Debian Sid XFCE 4.0.5-1 XFS 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Kernel 2.6.8.1 The fonts on my machine look far worse than those in the screenshots. For example, Slashdot: http://devidal.tv/~chris/ugly_dillo_fonts.png Compared to your screenshot: http://www.dillo.org/screenshots/slashdot1.png And just for reference, Firefox 1.0 RC1 from a Debian Sid source (probably includes gtk2 and xfs): http://devidal.tv/~chris/nice_firefox_fonts.png These fonts are about the only thing preventing my more regular use of Dillo. I built Dillo with just ./configure make make install I tried vw_fontname=lucida which helped some, but it's still uglier than the screenshots. Ideas? Need to know anything else? CD "You will exist forever. You and God are both in the universe to stay either as friends on his terms, or enemies on yours. Which it will be is proven in this life. And this life is a vapor. Two seconds, and we will be gone. Surely God means for our time on earth to count for something significant." -- John Piper in "Life as a Vapor." Read it here: http://www.desiringgod.org/library/onlinebooks_index.html#blv
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:52:01 -0500 (EST), "Chris de Vidal" <Chris@deVidal.tv> wrote:
The fonts on my machine look far worse than those in the screenshots. For example, Slashdot:
check with xfontsel what font do you really have for normal X programs, as gtk2 programs should be using a new way of generating fonts (XFT) and probably most of your truetype fonts arent really in the old X11 font interface try chossing a font listed in the xfontsel that looks good and its scalable... if you have bitstream vera, use it good luck higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
Thus spaketh higuita:
check with xfontsel what font do you really have for normal X programs, as gtk2 programs should be using a new way of generating fonts (XFT) and probably most of your truetype fonts arent really in the old X11 font interface
try chossing a font listed in the xfontsel that looks good and its scalable... if you have bitstream vera, use it
Switched vw_fontname to "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1" which looks somewhat better, but still not as good as the originals: http://devidal.tv/~chris/mine_versus_dillo.org.gif You may not see much difference but believe me my eyes hurt looking at my dillo. You really see the difference in the two green topic title bars; the dillo.org screenshot has very smooth fonts. Mine is all jaggedy. Tried the same version of dillo on my wife's PC, also Debian Sid, same kernel version, but running KDE 3.3 not XFCE. Looks beatiful, just like the screenshot. Something isn't right. I thought I set her machine up with the same fonts... Ideas anyone? CD "You will exist forever. You and God are both in the universe to stay either as friends on his terms, or enemies on yours. Which it will be is proven in this life. And this life is a vapor. Two seconds, and we will be gone. Surely God means for our time on earth to count for something significant." -- John Piper in "Life as a Vapor." Read it here: http://www.desiringgod.org/library/onlinebooks_index.html#blv
On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 05:57:19PM -0500, Chris de Vidal wrote:
Thus spaketh higuita:
check with xfontsel what font do you really have for normal X programs, as gtk2 programs should be using a new way of generating fonts (XFT) and probably most of your truetype fonts arent really in the old X11 font interface
try chossing a font listed in the xfontsel that looks good and its scalable... if you have bitstream vera, use it
Switched vw_fontname to "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1" which looks somewhat better, but still not as good as the originals: http://devidal.tv/~chris/mine_versus_dillo.org.gif
You may not see much difference but believe me my eyes hurt looking at my dillo. You really see the difference in the two green topic title bars; the dillo.org screenshot has very smooth fonts. Mine is all jaggedy.
Tried the same version of dillo on my wife's PC, also Debian Sid, same kernel version, but running KDE 3.3 not XFCE. Looks beatiful, just like the screenshot.
Something isn't right. I thought I set her machine up with the same fonts...
Ideas anyone?
Hi. It should be working. This is a problem with your machine's installed fonts, not with Dillo. Dillo doesn't do True Type at this time, so there's no point installing this type of fonts. I'm not a Debian user, but most probably you left out a set of "legacy" fonts that Dillo requires. Maybe the fastest solution is to check the font-specific .debs of your wife's cpmputer against yours, once this is done update the font cache, restart X and retry. A more accurate way of solving it is to ask a long time Debian user what the packages for "legacy" (not antialiased) fonts are and how to install them. Please let us know when it starts working for you. HTH. -- Cheers Jorge.-
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:57:19 -0500 (EST), "Chris de Vidal" <Chris@deVidal.tv> wrote:
Switched vw_fontname to "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1"
try "-misc-fixed-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" maybe this way you manage to get the bold, italic and different font sizes the way you put force the font to be exactly like that, my way "might" allow all combinations (might because i'm not sure if this isnt too generic or if dillo support it) also, is this the only font you have in xfontsel?
the dillo.org screenshot has very smooth fonts. Mine is all jaggedy.
the jagged font usually is because the font is not propocional/scalable or low quality
kernel version, but running KDE 3.3 not XFCE. Looks beatiful, just like the screenshot.
probably kde installed truetype fonts... try to do the xfontsel in that computer and compare then good luck higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
Hi, Sorry for the slightly unrelated post, higuita writes:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:57:19 -0500 (EST), "Chris de Vidal" <Chris@deVidal.tv> wrote:
Switched vw_fontname to "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1"
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kernel version, but running KDE 3.3 not XFCE. Looks beatiful, just like the screenshot.
probably kde installed truetype fonts... try to do the xfontsel in that computer and compare then
You probably mean 'xlsfonts', which will list all the fonts the current X server has access to (in a nicer format for comparison, than xfontsel). Chris, regarding your Debian box, make sure you have correctly configured your '/etc/fonts/local.conf' configuration file. Specifically, I have found that most Debian default installations disable bitmapped fonts, due to the use of anti-aliased or truetype fonts used in most applications and/or window managers. Uncomment the lines around: <dir>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts</dir> After you do that, run: $ defoma-reconfigure and $ fc-cache -f Another issue is that fonts with "odd" sizes are butt-ugly. In this respect, try adding 0.1 to your "font_factor" variable in your dillorc file (if it's 1.0 set it to 1.1, if it's 1.1 set it to 1.2, for example). It usually makes very little difference in the final font size, but makes it a _big_ difference in scalability. There was something else I was going to suggest, but I forget now... If I remember I'll write. Sorry, have to run now, good luck, and hope this helps, -- Livio B. Soares
hi On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:41:19 -0200, Livio Baldini Soares <livio@ime.usp.br> wrote:
try to do the xfontsel in that computer and compare then You probably mean 'xlsfonts', which will list all the fonts the current X server has access to (in a nicer format for comparison, than xfontsel).
agree, xfontsel is ugly but better to choose a font, but for comparing xlsfont is *alot* better... but i also suspect that the difference would be huge (maybe 10 fonts against 100) so enough to search for the cause thanks anyway for the correction 8) higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
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