I would like to suggest two mouse shortcuts for the Forward and Back buttons. To go back (like clicking the Back toolbar button) the user holds down the right mouse button and, while continuing to hold down the right button, clicks the left mouse button. The browser then goes back in the page history. To go forward (like clicking the Forward toolbar button) the user holds down the left mouse button and, while continuing to hold down the left button, clicks the right mouse button. The browser then goes forward in the page history. After a little practice this makes navigation through the page history very quick becuase you don't have to keep moving the mouse onto the toolbar. Thanks, Bill -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 12:21:16AM -0000, William Trenker wrote:
I would like to suggest two mouse shortcuts for the Forward and Back buttons.
To go back (like clicking the Back toolbar button) the user holds down the right mouse button and, while continuing to hold down the right button, clicks the left mouse button. The browser then goes back in the page history.
To go forward (like clicking the Forward toolbar button) the user holds down the left mouse button and, while continuing to hold down the left button, clicks the right mouse button. The browser then goes forward in the page history.
After a little practice this makes navigation through the page history very quick becuase you don't have to keep moving the mouse onto the toolbar.
Thanks, Bill
I like the idea, but would this cause problems for people using two-button mice in emulated three-button mode? I would think that both of these shortcuts could be interpreted as middle clicks... Paul
On Fri, 2 May 2003 15:41:25 -0400, Paul Pelzl <pelzlpj@eecs.umich.edu> wrote:
I like the idea, but would this cause problems for people using two-button mice in emulated three-button mode? I would think that both of these shortcuts could be interpreted as middle clicks...
Actually, I have already been using these mouse short-cuts with an emulated third-button mouse and Opera. The Opera browser has the same mouse button shortcuts I'm suggesting for Dillo; that's where I got the idea. It doesn't confuse the emulated middle-button function because you are clicking and holding one mouse button before clicking the other button; there is a slight time delay. It doesn't take long to get the right feel for it and the reward is really snappy navigation through the page history. (I should have given Opera credit for the idea in my first message, but I was concerned that the Dillo developers would think I was proposing the implementation of Opera's much more complex 'mouse gestures'. I'm not suggesting that, just a couple of relatively simple mouse key combinations that gives a very worthwhile benefit and that fits in with the Dillo objective for speed.) Bill -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
On Fri, 02 May 2003 15:51:18 -0000 William Trenker <wdtrenker@yahoo.ca> wrote: When I first read this suggestion, I thought "oh god, another fancy mouse trick for a simple web browser", but now that I think of it, that would be kinda cool, kinda like the one "ctrl-mousewheeldown=back, ctrl-mousewheelup=forward. My only contention though, is that the forward and back buttons or their equivalent shortcut(s) are becoming, well, obsolete. I almost never use them, since I just open everything in a new tab/browser, then close it when I am done with it. With Galeon or it's like, this can be a memory/cpu hog, but I don't think you would see that problem with Dillo as it is just so damned light (I know Dillo doesn't have tabs, but many window managers now support "grouping", and cycling through the group with the mousewheel, a la my personal fav, Pekwm). I would be interested to see a "poll" of how many people really do rely on the forward and back actions.
On Fri, 2 May 2003 15:41:25-0400, Paul Pelzl W> <pelzlpj@eecs.umich.edu>
wrote:
I like the idea, but would this cause problems for people using two-button mice in emulated three-button mode? I would think that both of these shortcuts could be interpreted as middle clicks...
Actually, I have already been using these mouse short-cuts with an emulated third-button mouse and Opera. The Opera browser has the same mouse button shortcuts I'm suggesting for Dillo; that's where I got the idea. It doesn't confuse the emulated middle-button function because you are clicking and holding one mouse button before clicking the other button; there is a slight time delay. It doesn't take long to get the right feel for it and the reward is really snappy navigation through the page history.
(I should have given Opera credit for the idea in my first message, but I was concerned that the Dillo developers would think I was proposing the implementation of Opera's much more complex 'mouse gestures'. I'm not suggesting that, just a couple of relatively simple mouse key combinations that gives a very worthwhile benefit and that fits in with the Dillo objective for speed.)
Bill
-- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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On Sat, 3 May 2003 01:54:14 -0400, Joe Hill <joehill@sympatico.ca> wrote:
well, obsolete. I almost never use them, since I just open everything in a new tab/browser, then close it when I am done with it. With Galeon or
i also rarely use the back and forward, the open in a new windows is very fast and more usefull in dillo i almost only use the back action when i miss click in one link or want to go to some index to bookmark the page higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
On Sat, 3 May 2003 01:54:14 -0400, Joe Hill <joehill@sympatico.ca> wrote:
My only contention though, is that the forward and back buttons or their equivalent shortcut(s) are becoming, well, obsolete. ... I just open everything in a new tab/browser ...
Some of us don't have the bandwidth to make automatically pre-loading all links desireable. For exampke, I'm connected to the web with a 33.6K dial- up modem. Another, possible concern with pre-loading is for hand=held devices that have pay-per-minute Internet connections. I would guess that folks with that kind of connection would only want to download the pages they specifically choose. But if I had an unlimited-access, high-speed Internet connection I can see how automatically loading all links on a page into background pages would be nifty. Regards, Bill -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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