Hi there, I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default. So this poll is open! (but closed to dillo-dev) Cheers Jorge.-
On 2003-05-30 at 12:57 -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default.
I personally find his icons to be much more intuitive; I'm not stuck blinking at the top of the browser window trying to remember which icon is which. What do you call fluff which actually achieves something useful and is unexpectedly good? Whatever the word is, if it's polite then it's probably a good word for the pixmaps.jg.h replacements. If you don't make them the default, then could someone who speaks autoconf please consider adding an option --with-pixmaps=/path/to/headerfile.h ? Purely so that I can be lazy when I put these icons in my compiles? :^) -- 2001: Blogging invented. Promises to change the way people bore strangers with banal anecdotes about their pets. <http://www.thelemon.net/issues/timeline.php>
Phil Pennock writes:
What do you call fluff which actually achieves something useful and is unexpectedly good?
Icons (and graphic design, and anything related to the user experience) do not constitute fluff. They are critically important functional components of any system that is composed from both human and software elements. Make the excellent Grantham icons the default.
On 2003-05-30 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Palmer wrote:
Phil Pennock writes:
What do you call fluff which actually achieves something useful and is unexpectedly good?
Icons (and graphic design, and anything related to the user experience) do not constitute fluff. They are critically important functional components of any system that is composed from both human and software elements.
True. I was being flippant. Without giving suitable indication of this. In public email. I'm a doofus -- sorry. -- 2001: Blogging invented. Promises to change the way people bore strangers with banal anecdotes about their pets. <http://www.thelemon.net/issues/timeline.php>
Phil Pennock writes:
True. I was being flippant. Without giving suitable indication of this. In public email. I'm a doofus -- sorry.
No need to apoligize. My terse language may have come across as stiff-necked, which I didn't intend -- I just wanted to express a holistic philosophy of end-user application development.
Hi, On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 05:24:58PM +0000, Phil Pennock wrote:
On 2003-05-30 at 12:57 -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote:
I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default.
Honestly, I don't care much about the icons. I like(d) the current ones since they look different from all the other browsers. John Grantham's OTOH do look good, indeed. Actually, I tend do reverse the colors of the current default "Stop" Icon. It makes it more obvious weather a page is still loading or not. Which is then similar to John's "Stop" icon. And here is another totally new idea : what about a theme to match sylpheed-claws ? Or one of sylhpeed's themes ? Or make a theme for sylpheed to match dillo ... :-) ... if only I had some talent and patience for that.
If you don't make them the default, then could someone who speaks autoconf please consider adding an option --with-pixmaps=/path/to/headerfile.h ? Purely so that I can be lazy when I put these icons in my compiles? :^)
Actually, I think it was even sylpheed, where I checked how they do run-time theming : it does not seem to be a whole lot of code to do run-time theming. Just an idea. For this I would even volunteer to code it, if it is not considered bloat. Cheers, Andreas -- **************************** NEW ADDRESS ****************************** Hamburger Sternwarte Universitaet Hamburg Gojenbergsweg 112 Tel. ++49 40 42891 4016 D-21029 Hamburg, Germany Fax. ++49 40 42891 4198
Hi, Sebastian, Livio, Eric, Jorgen: What do you think about this? :-) Cheers Jorge.-
Hi Jorge! Jorge Arellano Cid writes:
Hi,
Sebastian, Livio, Eric, Jorgen:
What do you think about this? :-)
I think John's icons are easier to look at than the traditional default icons. I vote for making John's icons the default ones. PS: Really sorry for being absent, but I'm barely breathing here... Working 12-13 hours per day on something you _really_ like is very amazing! But leaves no time for doing some basic stuff, like sleeping, eating and helping out Dillo's development. best regards! -- Livio B. Soares
-- En reponse de "Re: [Dillo-dev] Icons poll" de Livio Baldini Soares, le 03-Jun-2003 :
Hi Jorge!
Jorge Arellano Cid writes:
Hi,
Sebastian, Livio, Eric, Jorgen:
What do you think about this? :-)
I think John's icons are easier to look at than the traditional default icons. I vote for making John's icons the default ones.
I'm for the new icons too, but we should keep the old .h in the tarball.
PS: Really sorry for being absent, but I'm barely breathing here... Working 12-13 hours per day on something you _really_ like is very amazing! But leaves no time for doing some basic stuff, like sleeping, eating and helping out Dillo's development.
Ditto!
best regards!
-- Livio B. Soares
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:57:23 -0400 (CLT), Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid@softhome.net> wrote:
I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default.
i didnt knew this one, i use netscape one... but this one looks good i only have 2 complains about it: -the reload should be more like the others, ie: bigger arrows... maybe remote the page behind the reload symbol and increase the arrow... dawn, use the ximiam or konqueror symbol 8) -the colors are too strong (ou maybe too much colors) the bar should be discrete, should catch the attention of the user when reading some web page i think its the red and orange fault... all other icons have smoother, more low profile, colors monday i will try to ask to a graphic/artist friend 8) higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
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Andreas Schweitzer -
Chris Palmer -
Eric GAUDET -
higuita -
Jorge Arellano Cid -
Livio Baldini Soares -
Nicola Girardi -
Phil Pennock -
Sebastian Geerken