Hello again, So what's the big deal about javascripts? <td><A href ="javascript:void(window.open('/art_bell_cam. html','ABCam','nostatus,nomenubar,noresize,width=515,height=435'));"><img src=" /images/btn_webcam.gif" border="0"></a> </td> That's the image link and javascript to go to Art Bell's webcam, found in the source at www.coasttocoastam.com/index.html You click on the link with Dillo and get nothing, because Dillo doesn't support javascript. But if you do: dillo www.coasttocoastam.com/art_bell_cam.html There it is! A simple end-run around javascript that, it seems to me, could be built into Dillo without much problem. As for the other eye-candy bullshit done with javascripts, I couldn't care less. I don't want non-open-source software on my computer, and it is my understanding that java is not open-source. Tom