Hi Tomas, On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:12:07PM +0300, Tomas R wrote:
Been testing dillo 2.1 for some time and would like to share my experience.
It's really great to see some basic css support (appearance of most if not all websites has improved alot), properly resized images, redirection and basic authentication working now :)
Anyway, even dillo improved alot recently there still seems to be some issues. Here are some I've noticed after testing this release for few days: Rendering 1) ubuntu.lt Not sure if it's dillo fault or website's malformed stylesheet, but with default dillo settings some of the lithuanian characters are not displayed. This can be fixed by just adding "* {font-family: serif !important}" to the style.css. Here is a pic with some of the places where letters are missing marked in red: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2227/ubuntult.png
I guess the problem is that the font simply does not contain those glyphs. There are some rules how this case should be handled, but dillo does not implement them currently.
2) gmail It's nice that login works now, but with default dillo settings the size of most of the text is 1px. This can be partially fixed by adding font_min_size to dillorc, but it's obviously a dillo bug as this doesn't happen with links-hacked.
I don't have a gmail account, so I can't reproduce it, but there seems to be a general bug in the CSS code that makes fonts smaller than in other browsers.
3) google What's with the textarea in the top left corner of the page? And just for information: signing out doesn't work because it requires basic javascript support (works with links-hacked).
That textarea is in the google page. It's just hidden due to a "display: none" CSS directive which is not supported yet by dillo. Actually I'd like to know the reason why it is there before hiding it.
4) Black on black, white on white... http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42776&start=2660&sid=a5712379bdb845ed64a2dfdca10509ea For some reason black font color is used here and we get black text on black background in some posts (doesn't happen with links-hacked).
Oh. This is just horrible HTML / CSS, it's full of bugs! The reason for black on black is: <body bgcolor="#000000" text="#C0C0C0" link="#33CC00" vlink="#33CC00" /> I.e. body is immediately closed. But there is tons of other bugs on this page.
http://www.acetoneteam.org/ Background color is not set here and if we have "body {background-color: white}" rule in our style.css file, we get white text on white background.
dillo does not handle color definitions of the form rgb(255,255,255) yet. I guess we can fix that.
5) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6592005 What's with the PINK blocks? If that's more of a "feature" then a bug, can the color be changed by using some css rule?
I can't find pink blocks on that page. Where exactly do you see them? Maybe post a screenshot.
6) http://www.binaryworld.skynet.lt/DUK.html If we use one link with fragment identifier in the page, all the others are marked as visited too.
Not sure how this should be handled correctly. Someone will have to check the specs.
7) Authentication Basic authentication does work now, but at first the server displays a message saying "wrong credentials or browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials" and only then a window pops up asking for the credentials...
UI 1) Positioning the tab close button on the top RIGHT corner of the browser isn't a good thing because: a) The distance between the most commonly used buttons and the tab close button is pretty big (especially when widescreen monitors are pretty common nowadays); b) It only allows closing the active tab; I think it would be much better if all tabs had close buttons or at least the button was placed near the last tab.
Agreed. Patch welcome :)
2) Trivial but... because the setting to enable/disable image loading now is in the wrench menu it is two clicks away instead of one as it used to be in dillo 2.0. Maybe css settings could be left where they are now, but the setting for enabling/disabling images could be moved where it was in dillo 2.0? 3) UPPERCASE letters should be used in the File menu to define keyboard shortcuts, because now L looks like I (Open url... ctrl+l) 4) Don't you think "Are you sure you want to close the browser?" message is pretty annoying?
Which one exactly? When exiting dillo with multiple tabs/windows open? I don't think dillo asks a lot for confirmation, but I normally use multiple Ctrl-q's to close all tabs and windows and quit.
Other: It seems whoever designed the new website theme has no idea what READABILITY means... It looks like someone just used some stupid online color picker, which just picks some similar colors to the one user chooses. The old website looked MUCH MUCH better. Imho, it's a regression...
Hm I like the new design, but I agree that readability might be a problem. Let's see what other say.
PS: how to install dillo 2.1 claws-mail plugin?
Just install claws and the dillo plugin from source or packages depending on your distribution. Then make sure that dillo-2.1 is the dillo binary in your PATH. Cheers, Johannes