On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 06:37:32PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
@ M. Rovis Thank you for your response. This is addressed to you rather than the list because I don't think it is of general interest. Oh it is! If it is really about fonts that I fixed in my thread, and in my video! As, re-thinking about your reply, I again believe is the case.
Not going back and searching, but you were saying that you were rubbing your nose on the monitor to see [what you opened in dillo], weren't you? Nobody rubs their noses on the monitor to see just the "File" button, and then to see whether to click on it's popdown menu, be it "New Tab", the "New Window", "Open file", "Open URL", "Close or "Exit dillo", do they? But rather, you probably, as I did, and I did it for three months until another user, Walter Dnes (he is also deserving for my posting, and he also posted on the bug in Gentoo which is about it... But rather, you probably, as I did, and Watler indicated was was the problem with my Dillo, rub your nose on your monitor to see whatever the content, and not the UI fonts, on the pages that you open in your Dillo, in your Ubuntu Linux. So in case you do have that problem, and it's not about programming the User Interface fonts, in which case, everybody pls. forgive me for replying *to the list*... In that case, back to the list, pls. I do like to help if it is of general interest. That would be worth my time, because I believe in Free Software, and I like to help, but not the M$-kind of way, off-line, for one sole person. There is no dillo-users list, so this is the place to discuss it, but in clear terms.
I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other [ . . .] Please don't bother. In your earlier post but I thought you might be saying you already KNEW which fle needed to be changed to make the UI fonts adjustable, but that Sr. Cid didn't care for that approach because it would add another dependency. I can search the files for likely looking strings.
I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you? As I mentioned earlier I'm testing this on both "a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 with plain Openbox" and "a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE." Ubuntu is a Debian family gnu/linux. PCLOS, aka PClinuxOS, is a Mandriva family gnu/linux.
You inquired the output of ls -l ~/.dillo. Here it is from the Ubuntu system: $ ls -l ~/.dillo total 96 -rw------- 1 me me 96 Aug 27 16:42 cookiesrc -rw------- 1 me me 79 Aug 27 16:40 cookiesrc~ -rw------- 1 me me 125 Aug 27 17:44 cookies.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:20 dillorc -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc~ -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 03:25 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.27-Thu.PM.04.28.02 -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14060 Aug 27 16:29 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.AM.06.48.31 -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 14058 Aug 28 21:00 dillorc-bak-2015.08-Aug.28-Fri.PM.09.19.47 -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 105 Aug 27 02:36 style.css
,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
font_factor=1.5 As I replied to Mr. Henty earlier:
Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE. And of course I uncommented the line.
You can see (but I'm not searching for it in the respective threads, but you could), that I had the same problem. You are not talking about UI fonts, but fonts of the page opened to you by dillo, I'm almost sure now. I'll now take these two lines out of context:
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..."
Pls. keep to that, if you do reply (and reply to the list, please).
And I'll also change the title to just: Fonts in dillo, was: UI font size as I'm almost certain that is the matter. But I'll break that rule of replying, file lines above here, to some extent, becauise I will put in the In-Reply-To: <20150712064445.GA17278 at g0n> which is the Message-ID of the message containing the important info to get dillo compiled with unicode-supporting scalable fonts, which I'm almost cetain is the issue here, instead of the Message-ID of this message of yours that I'm actually replying. I'm doing so, because it is good that this message appears, right underneath: Fonts not found issue persists in 3.0.5 http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-July/010599.html (at least I hope it will; Namely that Message-ID is 20150712064445.GA17278 at g0n) What you, Plmalternate, probably need to do, see that fltk, which dillo needs for fonts, is compiled the right way...
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:47:15 +0200 From: miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr To: dillo-dev at dillo.org Cc: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalternate at gmail.com> Subject: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size Message-ID: <20150830134714.GB19293 at g0n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
@ Miroslav Rovis: Thank you, sir. I did not, at first, perceive that your comments were addressed to me, but assumed they followed up on some topic raised before I joined the list. They did so. They intend to belong to anoother thread if it becomes a
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 08:08:53PM -0400, Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote: thread. And if it does, it ought to be under subject:
Google captcha and cached images at VDR Forum registration http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010635.html
LATER NOTE: or maybe you are talking about the other thread by the subject: Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-August/010634.html
which does have converging (or common) points, with your issues.
But pls. don't worry, but rather keep up your efforts to learn, instead.
++++ You need to reply to the digest e-mail, when you post a question, by also changing the subject line to reflect your query, as it says in the digest, which you left in your email, you can find it in the text further below, and here it is for your convenience:
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..." ++++ You can see that Jorge Arellano Cid, the leader of the Dillo project, changed the cubject line when he replied to you, to read;
LATER NOTE (on second sending: also pls. reply to this mail, and to the list, not like I replying only to you, in hurry as I was).
Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest,v19#12 UI font size
and you can see I changed the subject line to read like Jorge did, to keep it the same.
Also, you need to reply to emails by hitting the "Reply" button, so that it is visible what email you are replying to, by the simple fact that the text of that email is contained in the email of yours, like Jorge did, and like I did. See, your email is within this email of mine.
But now that I have clicked your links, I think maybe they were. But I confess that I have not yet been able to understand. Are you saying I should change something in the source and recompile Dillo? If so, would you mind saying exactly what file and how I should change it? I don't know how much time I can set aside, as I really have other issues, and real-world problems, but I might try to help you a little...
But pls. do your best, as this is a developers' mailing list. Else we may be of distraction to the developers... And also, be patient. The other real-world issues may cause some delay in my replying to you.
I am only a wishful tester for their work, maybe I am not yet at the necessary level myself...
I don't care so much that the fonts be pretty, just legible without having to touch my nose to the monitor.
***Oh, no, now I see this!***
And I know, I remember so well, how I had to rub my nose into my monitor to see the fonts! No, this is (probably) not a UI issue, Jorge, if you are reading, it's not! This is a fonts not scalable issue (probably!...
I'm assuming you are using some kind of Linux. Are you? Let's first see, if you can find the file in your home directory, do this, as user, not as root:
cd /home/<replacer-this-with-your-username>/.dillo
And with the next command, you ought to see something like:
ls -l total 36 -rw------- 1 miro miro 67 2015-07-04 15:29 cookiesrc -rw------- 1 miro miro 173 2015-08-28 18:36 cookies.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 13984 2015-08-28 19:52 dillorc -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 990 2015-02-15 07:00 domainrc -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 157 2015-02-15 07:00 dpidrc -rw-r--r-- 1 miro miro 2935 2015-02-15 07:00 keysrc
Let me read your reply and explanation of what you see, and esp. if you can, maybe, now, understand, what I explained in the:
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen...
that is, to edit, with a normal editor in Linux, such as Vim, Emacs, Nano, or such, the line that reads (something like):
[[ I use Vim, but you can use any editor you like ]]
#font_factor=1.0
,,,You can change that line to read, maybe:
font_factor=1.5
for starters...
(my salute is in bottom)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:10:25 -0300 From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid at dillo.org> To: dillo-dev at dillo.org Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] UI font size Message-ID: <20150828151025.GB32592 at dillo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under "RENDERING SECTION").
There's also "font_min_size". I use this in my dillorc:
# Minimum font size font_min_size=18
-- Cheers Jorge.-
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:50:10 -0400 From: Plmalternate Plmalternate <plmalternate at gmail.com> To: dillo-dev at dillo.org Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 - UI font size Message-ID: <CAB2o_TGdQ6MMqQPseBWUTvdo6KdxiV2ZieXR1Xv-jMu0N31Ybw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
From: Jeremy Henty <onepoint at starurchin.org> Plmalternate Plmalternate wrote:
If I could figure out how to change the UI font size so it was big enough for me to see, it would be perfect.
I do this by setting "font_factor=1.4" in dillorc (it is under "RENDERING SECTION").
Regards,
Jeremy Henty
Thank you, sir. I tried that wth 1.4, 1.5, and 5.0, rebooting each time. Makes no difference I can see on either a 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 with plain Openbox or a 64 bit PCLOS with LXDE.
I suspected I should put something in ~/.fltk/fltk.org/fltk.prefs but when I searched on that filename the only things I found touching on the subject did so simply to say that was wrong.
Just to be clear: I'm talking about the font size of the text buttons/menus:
1st bar: "File" & whatever is in the url field like "example.com" 2nd bar left: "Back", "Forw", "Home", "Reload", "Save", "Stop", "Book", and "Tools". 2nd bar right: "Images x of y" & "Page z kb"
For some of those there is a corresponding icon, the size of which is SLIGHTLY adjustable through Tools, Panel Size, but text size doesn't change as far as I can see. I could do without the icons, personally, but that's just me.
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:16:25 +0200 From: miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr To: dillo-dev at dillo.org Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Gentoo live ebuild, WAS: Github..cookies Message-ID: <20150829021625.GA8318 at g0n> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 04:16:51PM +0200, miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 01:04:55PM +0200, miroslav.rovis1 at zg.ht.hr wrote:
> Dillo ebuild is missing xft flag for fltk, causes eye-sore renamed: www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft] > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588 There is more comments, by Walter Dnes, and by me. I saw the mail wasn't reported sent to Walter Dnes, so I thought I'd inform here.
I recently posted a comment on the "www-client/dillo should depend on x11-libs/fltk[xft]" WONTFIX but on Gentoo Bugzilla: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554588#c9
Note also the link there to the Forums topic: A Tentative at dillo-3.1-dev ebuild https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1021878.html#7806130 where also notice the video:
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-150824-Schm-capt/Screen_150824-Gen...
in which I explain it so even newbies can understand something's likely wrong with the treatment of us users of Dillo with the WONTFIX attitude, in my opinion.
BTW, also notice the strange kind of pasting with the 3.1-dev Dillo, or is it something else? (in the more or less entire bug in question it can be seen... No, you can't notice it in the previous comments I posted, they cleaned it, only this one last, before they clean it too...).
There is another issue, if I manage to write that separate topic about tonight, it's about: Why, oh why the Schmoog captcha? https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1027382.html (but separately if I manage)
I did my best. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr