Colin,
Any chance of a downloadable exe?
Jorge,
Before discussing Windows issues I thought you may like to know that Tom Huffman announced today on cinepaint-developers he has completed making Dillo into a Linux help system plug-in for CinePaint. I anticipate we'll start including Dillo with CinePaint in October.
We've been using the GIMP tips widget as our help system. Everyone is excited about Dillo as a big improvement. We plan to add an editing capability to Dillo so we can edit our help pages from within Dillo.
As I said, I'm not using Cygwin. Cygwin, clever as it is, has many drawbacks. I'm running Dillo natively on Windows.
It took me about 24 hours to accomplish that, to make some adjustments to compile Dillo in Microsoft Visual C++. Mostly it involved adding conditionals to change the names of included header files. Because your design didn't anticipate that a few of the POSIX calls you use are not available in Windows, it will take a little more work to replace those, to complete the job.
Although Windows is not 100% POSIX compatible, it is much more compatible than you seem to think. POSIX-based programs can be made to work on Windows without much trouble if you try. I haven't added any Windows API calls to the existing Dillo code.
Thanks for the link. Very interesting. You sound quite hostile to Windows users as a matter of personal politics.
May I ask, what does a policy of denying Dillo technical support to Windows users accomplish? Do you intend to prevent people from using software they have already paid for anyway? Should I throw away my copy of Windows 2000 to accommodate your political views? To what point? You can't think it could hurt Microsoft. You must know they aren't going to give me a refund.
If you change your mind and decide to answer my questions about what a few troublesome pieces of Dillo code are intended to do that would be nice. But, if you prefer not to it is no big deal. I've ported much more difficult programs without help.
Cheers,
Robin
P.S. For anyone doesn't know, I lead the GTK1 for Windows and the Mac GTK+OSX port projects in addition to CinePaint. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I'd be glad to, but the Windows port is not ready yet for release. I got as far as the splash screen. Still more bugs to fix. Encouraging though. In response to my request for technical information about Dillo to make it easier for me to debug the Windows port, Jorge sent me an email off-list last week in which he told me, "you're on your own" and directed me to his interview at http://www.dillo.org/interview.html for the reason why. What Jorge says there is he is opposed to supporting Windows users as a matter of personal politics. On Friday the 29th I sent an email to Jorge asking he reconsider, but he hasn't responded. The text of my message is below. I am not enclosing Jorge's message because I don't know if he intended that to be for the record. It seems that contributing to Dillo on Windows is unwelcome and requires forking it. I didn't come to the project with the idea that I would take it over and am a bit perplexed. I'm wondering how others who have been with the project longer may feel. Should Dillo for Windows go elsewhere? If yes, does anyone want to help with it? Thanks, Robin --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin.Rowe@MovieEditor.com Hollywood, California www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Rowe" <rower@MovieEditor.com> To: "Jorge Arellano Cid" <jcid@softhome.net> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo Windows port -
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